Can you Fix Flat Tubeless Tire with a Tube? - GL1800Riders
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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 02:11 PM Thread Starter
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Can you Fix Flat Tubeless Tire with a Tube?

So, that's the question:

If you get a flat, from say a nail puncture, in a nice new tubeless tire on your Gold Wing, can you "fix" it and keep using it by putting an inner tube in it?

I have a friend who has the worst luck with brand new tires he puts on his bike. Just about every time he installs a new tire, he gets a nail or something in it when it has hardly any miles on it. You gotta hate that.

Why not hot-patch it, AND put an inner tube inside and keep on riding?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 02:32 PM
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Usually the valve stem on a tube will not line up with the rim hole on a tubeless. It may be could be done with a lot of trial & error, but with the plugs & patches they have for tubeless tires they are far easier to get working than mounting a tube that you do not know if it pinched or not when you mounted it.

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Hot Patch !!!

Either hot patch it or plug it if it's small enough. I don't think it's a good idea to use a tube with a Radial Tire...

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On car tires anyway, the tube actually shortened the life of the tire because it would chaff around inside, even when properly installed and inflated. Then go to leaking or blowing out. I agree with those above that the patch kits out now work very well. I find the rope ones to work the best. I had a flat in my garage the morning I was to leave on a 1500 miler. I plugged it and took off, checking it every hundred miles or hour, no-I wasn't going that fast, and never lost a pound. That was the first day. I checked it each morning before flight with the same results.
Then ordered a tire which waited for me when I got home. I put it on about 8000 miles later. And when I removed it. That rope was still holding perfectly. A good friend ran with 2 plugs in his Harley rear tire and never ever worried. But I've heard the horror stories too.
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Id just put a worm in it
Easily last the lifetime of the tyre

Well i started out with nothing and I still got a whole lot left
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I got a nail in my tire within the first 3,000 miles and put a plug in it but it is leaking slowly. Have to add air about every 2 weeks when the light comes on. Not a bad leak but enough to be a pain.

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SLIME IT !
Slime is an absolute NO-NO. This is the stuff that makes a real mess, almost impossible to clean and will eat alloy rims!
May be good for low speed tires(lawn mowers, etc.)not good for highway speed tires
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From when I did work with Cooper Tire company - NO, do not put a tube in a tubeless tire (for highway rated tires/speed).


Besides the valve stem not aligning as mentioned above, the flex of the tire will ruin the tube. An internal patch is the preferred method of tire repair. A good plug is second. Don't try to repair a hole in a sidewall - toss the tire. Obviously if stuck in boonie land and you have a sidewall puncture you can try plugging it - however a couple of things to note. One - have your life insurance paid up. Two - run around 10 psi or so higher than normal to limit the sidewall flex. Three - keep your speed way down - both to limit stress on the tire, and the handling issues you're going to experience when the plug gives out.


Also - whether you plug or patch a tire - de-rate the speed rating of the tire one step down.



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