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Trailer Balls, Motorcycle Specific are here

As mentioned in previous posts, I didn't have the time in our production schedule to make another run on more "trailer" balls and didn't know when I would. As an alternative, I flipped the project off to the lead-machinist that would actually be building the balls. I provided the material/machines/drawings and he provided the time and expertise. Therefore, I am kind of out of the loop on the trailer balls. If others can get the motorcycle specific balls, I'm happy. If the fellow building them can make a little for his time, hopefully, he will be happy, as well.

The pic below is a comparison to the Rivco anodized aluminum ball (left), a ball from a production run I had made some time back (center) and the newest generation ball (right). The new ball is slightly taller with an even smaller "shank" or "neck" (0.750" OD) than the previous generation to allow even more swiveling clearances. The balls are constructed from 17-4PH material (171ksi...twice as strong as commercial heat-treat 4140 steel) and will never rust, peel, flake or the like. You could pick up your motorcycle with this ball and shake it hard without a ball issue.




The limited clearance for the Rivco ball is what got me started building balls in the first place. Rivco makes a top-notch hitch, IMO, but their balls didn't work out so well for me. This was after a flying trip across the Cherola Skyway...ball/coupler would run out of clearance in hard cornering and thereby, I was torquing the trailer's suspension to get the bike over far enough to make the high-paced corners. Not for the faint of heart.




The fellow building these balls does not tow a motorcycle trailer. He bounced the idea of building these balls off some of his friends and word got out. He has already sold several to some local GoldWing riders. This is the balls I will be pulling all my trailers with as of next week.






I am not participating in the finances, order-taking, shipping, etc. for this project as I don't want to mix business with my hobby, however, I will assure you and guarantee that if you order the ball, you will get the ball. They have set up a PayPal account (trailerballs @ yahoo.com) which is, also, their email address. A young lady named Jennifer (who is, also, an employee here) will be the one processing the orders. From past experience, I can say with confidence that she gets stuff done promptly and efficiently.

The price for the trailer balls is $50 flat-rate shipped anywhere in the United States. A good price considering the raw 2" material is over $24 per unit. I'm sure they would be more than glad to ship outside of the US with an adjustment in shipping cost. Shop now while quantities last.

If I can answer any technical questions on the balls, I will gladly do so. If you have any questions about purchasing, shipping, etc., please direct them to Jennifer at the above email address.

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I will say this. When I sold my wing and trailer, one thing I kept other than my rideing jacket and pants was my ZackyBilly custom trailer ball. I have the 2nd version I guess and will have it until I get another bike and then maybe get the 3rd generation. This is one NICE item for you trailer pullers.

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Oh My!!! Thanks Z for posting this. I just sent them a e-mail order request for 10.

Now all I have to do is figure out where to get those chain spacer bar thing-ma-jigs.


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Oh My!!! Thanks Z for posting this. I just sent them a e-mail order request for 10.

Now all I have to do is figure out where to get those chain spacer bar thing-ma-jigs.


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John,

The fellow building the balls runs CNC lathes. The "Spreader Bar" thinga-ma-jig is an item built on a mill or machining center. I will talk to my mill guys this morning to see if they want to build them in their off hours to supplement the balls. The spreader bar is notched to "locate" on the tongue. The only tongues I am familiar with are Rivcos. For other types of tongues, I may have to impose on a few of you guys to get a width dimension of the non-Rivco tongues to insure a good fit.





I cannot guarantee this will happen just yet as all off this is being done off the books and separate from my company. In short, the price would be too high for most if I were having to pay over-time rates to get these items built as we have been blessed with more than enough work for quite some time and don't see it letting up any time soon.

My objective here is to set things up where my Goldwing family and the good people I work with to benefit from this venture. I stand to gain nor lose anything here and am only co-ordinating the effort between the two fine groups of people. My only obligation here, as I see it, is to vouch for the folks building/selling the parts since I am the one bringing them into the fold here. Again, if both parties are happy with the arrangement, I'm tickled shipless.

I'll post back what I learn on the spreader bars.

I'll be rigging out another hitch next week as I received word from Tom Finch that the Tailwind I have on order is close to completion. I've never pulled a titanium Tailwind...I'm stoked about it.

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I have one of the first ones that I got from you through Tom. I am extremely interested in the spreader bar. Like Dale said...I will sell the bike but not my trailer ball. In fact that was one of the stipulations when I sold my 07...the Rivco hitch came off (I would have left it if he had wanted it) but under no circumstances would the ball be going.

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Oh my, I've not gone your way to get mine. Is it too late?
No, JJ, it's not too late.

When I told you I had a ball (2nd generation) for you and Fast Eddie (EarnhardtSportsman), I set them aside at that time and meant what I said. If you recall, I put a condition on yours....you have to come pick it up. However, I could be talked into meeting you at Red Bluff (where I bumped into you before).

Actually, the 2nd generation ball in the picture above is yours...hope you don't mind that I borrowed it for the picture.

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I have one of the first ones that I got from you through Tom. I am extremely interested in the spreader bar. Like Dale said...I will sell the bike but not my trailer ball. In fact that was one of the stipulations when I sold my 07...the Rivco hitch came off (I would have left it if he had wanted it) but under no circumstances would the ball be going.

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Dan,

That was nice of Tom to hook you up with one. I was trying to be nice and provided a small quantity to him as a Christmas gift in return for the favors I have received from him unsolicited. Looking back, I may have done him an injustice. If I had provided him with enough balls for all of his towing friends, I would have had to ship them in a rail car. As the way it worked, I'm sure it put him on the spot trying to figure out what to do with them. Guess I didn't think that one all the way through.

In our business, we don't want to be a "me too" or a "copy-cat" company (building the same thing that many others build). There is no money or fun in that. When shopping for a ball like this, I came up empty handed. Although we have machining capabilities, many times it is cheaper just to buy what is already on the market. These don't appear to be on the market and fortunately, we've got what it takes to build them.

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The fellow building the balls runs CNC lathes. The "Spreader Bar" thinga-ma-jig is an item built on a mill or machining center. I will talk to my mill guys this morning to see if they want to build them in their off hours to supplement the balls. The spreader bar is notched to "locate" on the tongue. The only tongues I am familiar with are Rivcos. For other types of tongues, I may have to impose on a few of you guys to get a width dimension of the non-Rivco tongues to insure a good fit.





I cannot guarantee this will happen just yet as all off this is being done off the books and separate from my company. In short, the price would be too high for most if I were having to pay over-time rates to get these items built as we have been blessed with more than enough work for quite some time and don't see it letting up any time soon.

My objective here is to set things up where my Goldwing family and the good people I work with to benefit from this venture. I stand to gain nor lose anything here and am only co-ordinating the effort between the two fine groups of people. My only obligation here, as I see it, is to vouch for the folks building/selling the parts since I am the one bringing them into the fold here. Again, if both parties are happy with the arrangement, I'm tickled shipless.

I'll post back what I learn on the spreader bars.

I'll be rigging out another hitch next week as I received word from Tom Finch that the Tailwind I have on order is close to completion. I've never pulled a titanium Tailwind...I'm stoked about it.

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Z,

I'm very pleased with the arrangements. I've always understood your views about the trailerballs and never wanted to place any pressure on you about them or the chain spreader, so you can keep it all fun. When I first saw the trailerball you made shortly after my incidient with my underbolt trailerball separating in route to the 2010 TTT. I knew instantly what you made was 1000 times more superior to what is on the market and lord willing short of be a criminal wanted to get one. Back then and still now I don't know jack about trailering with the wing. But I do learn although sometimes the hard way.

Justing & Jennefer have already responded to my requests and my order has been placed. They promised to ship them on my requested dates, life is very good.!!!

As for the spreader bar I too have the Rivco hitch. And I really do appreciate your efforts with coordinating. If they agree I'll get in line and place my order for some. If they don't I'll continue keeping my eyes open for other solutions. I'm hoping they will, because again I've not seen anything come close to being as good and functional as to the one you've made.

"titanium Tailwind" as in color or metal?

John

P.S. Don't be surprised when I come back to ask you how you made the mud flap on your Rivco hitch. Surprise!!!! I'm asking!

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Zack,

My thanks also for the notice that the hitch balls are now available. I've sent an email to get myself in line for one. I would be interested in the spreader bar for safety chain connections as well. Hope the folks can get that included in the product they offer. These make access and checking of the safety chains an easier proposition than found on most bikes. I look forward to using these products. I appreciate your help getting this done.

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