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Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position RE960AS runflat ride report

Like the title says, this is a ride report for the Potenza tire. Installed June 2015, wore plumb out August 2016. Mileage on tire - 17,012. And yes - it was overworn and should have been replaced sooner (was just having too much fun ) Actually just finished a multi-state trip and the end came a bit sooner than I expected.


So here's my impressions. Good in rain, good traction, good in transitions. Compared to the Kumho - much more compliant on uneven road surfaces, less of a tendency to want to standup, easy to transition. Compared to the Alpin (winter version) - similar to the Alpin's performance during the first half of the Alpin's wear. The Alpin during the first half of tread life feels a bit squirmy powering out of a corner, that feeling goes away as the tire wears down the edge sipes. The Potenza tends to keep that feeling through the tire's life if run at a lower pressure. (I ran the Alpin around 28-30, ran the Potenza around 32 to reduce the squirm). Overall similar to the Alpin - and I liked the Alpin (since discontinued).


Got fairly even tread wear at 32-ish, my riding area stretched from Texas to the East Coast, slab and mountain twisties, one-up, two-up (very rarely), and pulling a trailer for about half the time. Speeds ranged from crawling along during IronMan escort to 95+ during IBA rides with those Texas fools (and you know who you are ). The tire was stable during all evolutions. Including the monsoons encountered going to/from Glockjock's.


Picture of tire when new (stock photo) -







Picture of my tire (circled spot is the nail I picked up, tpms alerted me to the problem) ...




Type of riding encountered ...




Overall - would I get it again - Yes But - I'm going to try a different one for this time around, right now a bit of a toss-up between the Yoko Envignor and the Bridgestone Driveguard, with leaning towards the Driveguard (although I am preferential to asymmetric tread design of the Yoko).


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There is a new Michelin Alpin run flat mounted on good looking wheel for sale in the classifieds for sale forum....asking $250. Thread subject is "Riding gear and Darkside set up"


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I ran the RE960AS Pole Position for my entry into the dark side. I ran it for about the same as you, around 16,000 miles. Mine was not worn out, had around 4 thousanths left, but I was heading out on a couple thousand mile trip and much rain was expected and around here the wind always comes with rain, so I put on a new Yokohama. My gosh how much better the Yokohama is for me at least.
When I first got the Pole Position being my first car tire, I didn't have anything to guage against. Now I have about 4,000 miles on the Yokohama.
My thoughts are the Pole Position is way more sensitive to road crowns ect, takes way more effort to maintain a turn and more lean angle is needed to corner the same speed as the Yokohama. I don't care to ride like a racer, so more lean to me felt like for the same speed it was less secure feeling in turns. Just by looking at the tires side by side I can see the Pole Position is flatter profile vs the Yokohama that has rounded off sides making turns better and less problems following road irregularities.
The biggest difference though is riding in crosswinds. Since the Pole position takes so much lean to turn, it also takes much lean to counteract cross winds. Not a nice feeling to have wind at your side and leaning over to the extent pegs are nearly dragging to hold a straight line. Yokohama miles ahead riding in wind.
sorry, don't mean to hijack your review, just thought I would throw in a couple of my own thought. I won't be riding on one again, that wind problem just makes the tire too unforgiving to the point of dangerous when it really gets blowing.
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Thanks for the ride report on the Potenza.
I have the same tire mounted up. just waiting for the e3 to wear out.
It will be my first darkside tire. Not sure if I'm going to like it. However I thank you for the report. Any info on what to expect is appreciated.

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Like the title says, this is a ride report for the Potenza tire. Installed June 2015, wore plumb out August 2016. Mileage on tire - 17,012. And yes - it was overworn and should have been replaced sooner (was just having too much fun ) Actually just finished a multi-state trip and the end came a bit sooner than I expected.


So here's my impressions. Good in rain, good traction, good in transitions. Compared to the Kumho - much more compliant on uneven road surfaces, less of a tendency to want to standup, easy to transition. Compared to the Alpin (winter version) - similar to the Alpin's performance during the first half of the Alpin's wear. The Alpin during the first half of tread life feels a bit squirmy powering out of a corner, that feeling goes away as the tire wears down the edge sipes. The Potenza tends to keep that feeling through the tire's life if run at a lower pressure. (I ran the Alpin around 28-30, ran the Potenza around 32 to reduce the squirm). Overall similar to the Alpin - and I liked the Alpin (since discontinued).


Got fairly even tread wear at 32-ish, my riding area stretched from Texas to the East Coast, slab and mountain twisties, one-up, two-up (very rarely), and pulling a trailer for about half the time. Speeds ranged from crawling along during IronMan escort to 95+ during IBA rides with those Texas fools (and you know who you are ). The tire was stable during all evolutions. Including the monsoons encountered going to/from Glockjock's.


Picture of tire when new (stock photo) -







Picture of my tire (circled spot is the nail I picked up, tpms alerted me to the problem) ...




Type of riding encountered ...




Overall - would I get it again - Yes But - I'm going to try a different one for this time around, right now a bit of a toss-up between the Yoko Envignor and the Bridgestone Driveguard, with leaning towards the Driveguard (although I am preferential to asymmetric tread design of the Yoko).


Comments are welcome.
I think you got your monies worth out of that Potenza LOL! I've got one in the garage with a little over 10 thousand miles on it and about 2/3 used up. It reminded me when I first installed it of the Pirelli Euphoria V rated I had run till they were discontinued. I liked the way it handled and at $133 at the time it was a bargain for a ROF. I need to finish it off but have a long trip two up pulling a trailer coming up. The Alpin I have on now has about 17,000 mi on it and I need to put fresh rubber on before heading West. I'm thinking of trying the Yoko after reading all the positive reviews on here about it.

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Update - and thanks to all above for your inputs and comments. And no worries about hijacking the thread - this was started to allow for everyone to chime in.


After some consideration of y'alls comments and consultation with that Tutor of Tires, the Master of Motion, the Purveyor of DS Cookies and the Wrenching Moderator himself -- Sir Rail @Rail32 - I have done purchased a Yoko Envignor runflat.


And a reminder of this thread for those of you who are either looking for someone who changes tires for fellow riders, or is able to do such for others -- Fellow Riders Willing to Mount a Tire for Other Riders


And an additional reminder - a TPMS is a good thing to have - I wouldn't have seen the nail in my tire without spraying soapy water on it. The TPMS alerted me to the problem.
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Jerry,

As you are aware I just finished a long trip. As my Alpin decided to get a separation in it, I went with the Bridgestone Drivegard. Ran some really rutted roads and it was really tough to hold straight in those type of situations. Biker John who was kind enough to change it for me, had a heck of a time getting the Bridgestone on. We both agreed that the sidewalls were way stiffer than the Alpin. In the rain and good (decent) roads works well. Handled the twisty roads I was on well, but when on something not smooth it wanted to stand up right now! Realize you have already made your choice, but just my .02 worth. Take care my friend and ride long and safe. YMMV.

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There is a new Michelin Alpin run flat mounted on good looking wheel for sale in the classifieds for sale forum....asking $250. Thread subject is "Riding gear and Darkside set up"
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Allen, thanks for letting me know. I had seen the ad however I already have a couple of rims and just need a tire.

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Jerry,

As you are aware I just finished a long trip. As my Alpin decided to get a separation in it, I went with the Bridgestone Drivegard. Ran some really rutted roads and it was really tough to hold straight in those type of situations. Biker John who was kind enough to change it for me, had a heck of a time getting the Bridgestone on. We both agreed that the sidewalls were way stiffer than the Alpin. In the rain and good (decent) roads works well. Handled the twisty roads I was on well, but when on something not smooth it wanted to stand up right now! Realize you have already made your choice, but just my .02 worth. Take care my friend and ride long and safe. YMMV. Crabby Bob
Bob your input and wisdom is always appreciated. And thanks for helping solidify my decision.


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Ssncob, thanks for the very nice write up on the Pole Position. I knew a few guys run/ran them, but I never seen much for a review till now.

You're welcome. It was a decent tire, but like Fluke189 said - I have run some other tires that did a bit better in the heavy crosswinds. I wasn't a bad tire - just that I preferred some others better. Looking forward to trying out the Yoko, have some longer rides coming up and another Texas IBA next month.


Again - thanks to all who responded.
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