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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 11:23 PM
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The Ridgeline has been redesigned to look more like a traditional truck for 2017 although I still think it's unibody. It's more inline with the canyon, Nissan Frontier, or Ford Ranger. Not a full size truck but a truck nonetheless.

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The fact that the Ridgeline doesn't have a bed separate from the cab is what makes it not a truck. Would you consider a Cadillac Escalade EXT a truck?

The fact that the Ridgeline is primarily front wheel drive makes it an impractical "truck," unless you're going to haul tissue paper or pillows. The more weight you put in the bed the less traction it gets.

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The fact that the Ridgeline doesn't have a bed separate from the cab is what makes it not a truck. Would you consider a Cadillac Escalade EXT a truck?

The fact that the Ridgeline is primarily front wheel drive makes it an impractical "truck," unless you're going to haul tissue paper or pillows. The more weight you put in the bed the less traction it gets.
To me and at least one dictionary author and perhaps a 300lb dude in boxer shorts with cake crumbs on his chest editing Wikipedia, a truck is a motor vehicle designed to carry cargo.

Escalade, Suburban, Expedition, etc. are not trucks because they are purpose built for passengers and their relatively limited cargo capability is ancillary. However, the "so what?" is pretty tiny there.

Unless you're loading aft of the rear axle, weight in the bed of a pickup will not unweight the front axle. The rear may take a higher proportion of the load, but the front carries some of it too and hence has more traction than when empty.

For hauling tissue paper and pillows, I recommend a box truck or at least great tarp for your Ridgeline truck.

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To me and at least one dictionary author and perhaps a 300lb dude in boxer shorts with cake crumbs on his chest editing Wikipedia, a truck is a motor vehicle designed to carry cargo.

Escalade, Suburban, Expedition, etc. are not trucks because they are purpose built for passengers and their relatively limited cargo capability is ancillary. However, the "so what?" is pretty tiny there.

Unless you're loading aft of the rear axle, weight in the bed of a pickup will not unweight the front axle. The rear may take a higher proportion of the load, but the front carries some of it too and hence has more traction than when empty.

For hauling tissue paper and pillows, I recommend a box truck or at least great tarp for your Ridgeline truck.
I agree, it's sort if like the debates that go on here about what qualifies as a touring bike or a motorcycle. The Ridgeline is not a traditional truck but it falls within 94% of the cargo and towing capacity of other trucks in its class, and it has traction available to all four wheels.
It's also not the first primarily front wheel drive truck and probably provide better traction during the vast majority of time that the truck will not be loaded or towing. In 2 wheel drive my rear wheel drive truck often spins when empty which is more often than not.
My brother had a Cadillac escalade EXTRA (truck) for about eight years, and believe me he used it as a truck and loved it. The Honda Ridgeline is not for me as my needs require a full size truck, but I'm glad to see someone is thinking outside the box and pushing the norm.

BTW Super crew trucks are designed more to accommodate passengers but still retain most of there cargo and towing capacity, and are still considered trucks.

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I own a 2008 Ridgeline. Best truck truck i have ever owned. 120,000 mile so far with no problems. It will go anywhere i want to go, plus tow what i need it to tow. I have taken it places my son-in-law would not take his full size 4x4 duramax. Plus it pulled that same truck out of a snow bank. I get 18 around town and 23 on the highway. Not great mileage but i'm happy. Going to buy a new one in 80,000 miles
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The fact that the Ridgeline doesn't have a bed separate from the cab is what makes it not a truck. Would you consider a Cadillac Escalade EXT a truck?

The fact that the Ridgeline is primarily front wheel drive makes it an impractical "truck," unless you're going to haul tissue paper or pillows. The more weight you put in the bed the less traction it gets.
A truck comes with a frame. Does the Honda. If not than it's not tough enough for real truck work.
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To me and at least one dictionary author and perhaps a 300lb dude in boxer shorts with cake crumbs on his chest editing Wikipedia, a truck is a motor vehicle designed to carry cargo.
Well, if ya want to go getting all technical and stuff . . . .

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That's why I specified the Escalade EXT - it had a bed instead of an enclosed area behind the back seats. They quit making them in about 2013, though. I don't know why - now all the truck makers make a luxury pickup that costs up near the Escalade range.

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In 2 wheel drive my rear wheel drive truck often spins when empty which is more often than not.
I agree with that. My Ram Laramie has Auto 4WD as one of its drive options, along with 2WD and the 4WD high and low range. The Auto mode makes it more like all wheel drive, as opposed to 4WD. In wet weather, if I'm not in Auto mode, I can forget pulling out into traffic or otherwise stepping on the gas pedal with more than one toe.

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Yeah, Ed_S, I saw those extra EXT letters a little later and figured you probably did some sneaky stuff in there. I'm not up to snuff on my Escalades. Well played.

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I agree with that. My Ram Laramie has Auto 4WD as one of its drive options, along with 2WD and the 4WD high and low range. The Auto mode makes it more like all wheel drive, as opposed to 4WD. In wet weather, if I'm not in Auto mode, I can forget pulling out into traffic or otherwise stepping on the gas pedal with more than one toe.
Yes my F150 Supercrew has AdvanceTrac but I usually don't need it on that truck, some people think it's just a SUV with a bed anyway. But my GMC single cab with 8' bed that most people consider a truck won't get out of its own way if the roads are wet, I have to put it in 4 wheel drive frequently even in the summer time.

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