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Cool.............................................. ............ umm no I mean warm, no warmer.


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I live in central Illinois with a 2007 Trike. I can assure you, that it gets cold enough here (32 this morning with 1" of snow) the seat gets warm enough that I have to turn it down. My problem is the handlebar grips with the Kuryakyn grips. I do get heat, but would like to have more. Fred, do you see a way to increase the heat in them without creating too much heat on the inside of the grips?

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Fred, Great info. You are not responsible for this info,but is the harness the same on the 06 Wing? Are the color codes the same but in different locations? Thanks Buzz
The color codes on the 2006 schematic I have show that the wire colors on the seat side of the connector have changed some, but the color code on the BIKE side of the connector for the thermistor ground circuit is still shown to be GREEN with a BLACK STRIPE.

If you are unsure, pull up the page in your manual that shows this schematic, and follow the RIDERS thermistors over to the COMMON GROUND that they share and check the color code of it.

However, be warned, I have not done this modification on any model year other than the 2009. You might want to put an ohmeter on the thermistors and see what they measure to make sure they haven't been changed. I got about 67K ohms at 55 degrees. They should be somewhere close to that.






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Here is the 2006 schematic I have. Note that on the BIKE side of the connector, the common ground is still shown as GREEN with a BLACK STRIPE.




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I live in central Illinois with a 2007 Trike. I can assure you, that it gets cold enough here (32 this morning with 1" of snow) the seat gets warm enough that I have to turn it down. My problem is the handlebar grips with the Kuryakyn grips. I do get heat, but would like to have more. Fred, do you see a way to increase the heat in them without creating too much heat on the inside of the grips?

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There are no thermistors in the grips, so this trick won't work with the heated grips.

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Fred, could you use a poteniometer to vary the resistance to simulate different temp conditions?




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Fred, could you use a poteniometer to vary the resistance to simulate different temp conditions?
Yes if it was the right size, but I wouldn't advise it. The danger would be that if the POT's wiper arm opened up (as they frequently do) the seat heater might go into a thermal runaway condition. I don't know if the system shuts itself down if it senses an open on the thermistors or not, but if it doesn't auto shut down, and the thermistor circuit is open, the heater would run wide open with no regulation.

Personally, I think you are better off just putting in a standard 10K ohm resistor and using the dial adjuster on the bike to control the heat level.

It is also worth mentioning, that this modification will probably be of more use to folks who ride in milder temps, where the seat heater doesn't come on as much, than it will for folks in colder climates. When the seats are really cold (say below 35 degrees) there probably is no need for this modification.

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This sounds great. Where is this connector on the bike located?
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It is also worth mentioning, that this modification will probably be of more use to folks who ride in milder temps, where the seat heater doesn't come on as much, than it will for folks in colder climates. When the seats are really cold (say below 35 degrees) there probably is no need for this modification.

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