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post #31 of 74 (permalink) Old 12-11-2016, 07:51 AM
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Ever wonder why so many people have problems with electrical gremlins and bad switches so often? Read this thread and wonder no more. Of course, the failures are always Honda's fault, right?

I destroyed my wheels very first year I owned my bike. I bought in in September of 02, and was so excited about the new bike that I rode it deep into December, ignoring all the salt. By the time it came to park it, it was too cold to wash the bike. When I pulled it out in the spring, I was horrified. It took three hours of wet sanding on each wheel to get all the corrosion and pitting sanded out. They never looked new again.

When I work on radios and CBs, I can always tell which riders ride a lot in the rain. I can tell which riders park their bikes out in the hot sun for long periods. And I can tell which riders ride on salt covered roads. Those environmental conditions all degrade the motorcycle in their own way. The dusting of salt that gets into every crevice of the bike works its way into connectors and corrodes the pins of any connector that isn't weatherproofed. Time is the enemy here, not mileage.

We generally only equate salt damage with the things we can easily see, such as rotted out body panels, rusted calipers and nuts and bolts, etc. But it's the hidden degradation that happens deep inside unseen areas that causes the most harm. I can make a complex bike like the Wing unreliable and prone to breakdown.

Cars have come a long way in the last 40 years to combat the effects of salt and moisture. But motorcycles are not designed with the same corrosion protections as cars are. It doesn't take much to destroy a bike. But it doesn't happen right away. Most of the lasting effects accumulate over time.

Yeah, if you are lucky enough to have a heated garage where you can wash your bike every time you head out into the salt, you can counter many of the effects. But you can't get everything.

Accusing people using salt as an excuse to wimp out from riding in the cold is shortsighted. The effects of salt are well known. It's not a theory. Some people just care about their bikes more than others.

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But life is too short to miss opportunities,,,,and great pix
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Just picked up a 0000000 mile 14 last month for a great price. This one will not see salt yet. But I now have a 200,000 mile 01 that I will keep for such occasions
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Hey Rail, I hope you wear something bright when you're out riding the snow on that bike else you'll be riding a stealth machine!!
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Hey Rail, I hope you wear something bright when you're out riding the snow on that bike else you'll be riding a stealth machine!!


That was a concern at the time . I was wearing red jacket .

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Typically, what is used is a combination of a fine aggregate material combined with the rock salt. This mixture is accomplished on the yard of the agency in most cases utilizing a wheel bucket loader. The finished product is then stockpiled under cover and when needed is then loaded in spreaders and distributed on the roads.

The "rock salt" used to always be sodium chloride and is very corrosive and environmental concerns have been voiced; but it is limited for deicing roads because it will not work when temperatures fall below 20 degrees F. There are several alternatives to sodium chloride being used by many governmental agencies now. This includes magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, and corrosion inhibiting calcium chloride (which is a manufactured liquid deicer). For those interested, the link below has two tables showing the corrosion values per mile of sodium chloride, calcium chloride, and corrosion inhibiting calcium chloride.

http://www.calciumchloride.com/ice.shtml

Do I ride when roads are deiced? Practically never. But I broke a hip in 1972 on my Honda 450 when I hit black ice on a hill. So, my concerns are different.
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Rail, your picture reminds me of a Bev Dolittle painting. Very nice.
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I've read someplace (on the internet no doubt) that frequent and complete rub downs with fresh deerskin keeps bikes from rusting..?
..? .. is that true?

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If u read it on the internet its got to be true ! Maybe the deer accidents is why everyone but me reports problems with their aluminum wheels . Happy holidays to you as well Dennis !

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