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Not only does BMW not put engine and bag guards on them, you can't even get aftermarket guards
until some mfg tools up for them. BMW will not even offer them as an option. t.
I'm calling you out as BS on this claim!
BOTH of my GTL's came with FACTORY engine guards. Do you want the part numbers?
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Is Blackfoot a good dealer?
In Winnipeg, Wildwood Motorsports is the epitome of an overpriced, incompetent dealer who doesn't give a rat's a$$ about their customers, be they BMW, Ducati, or Yamaha.


Been in Blackfoot many times. Been ignored....everytime. They seem to busy to offer any help so I buy elsewhere. I only deal with people who appreciate and earn my business through good service, god selection and fair pricing. Blackfoot fails on all counts.
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I agree, the Wing is superior for 2-up (and I think I said that). But, reliability? I went through 2 boots on 2001 and they never did fix the overheating problem. I could NOT ride the bike at slow speeds in hot weather without overheating, I had to always stop and let it cool down. Even Harleys would pass me at the side of the road .


Calgary now has 2 Honda Powerhouse stores. One in the South East...Rocky Mountain Powerhouse and one in the North East.... Adventure Honda.


Been to both and both offer great service.
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Some one asked why I bought one if I am critical of them. I have never owned a 1600GTL. I did ride a rented 800 around Europe one summer but that's not relevant.

Several people here defend BMW citing evidence based on owning other BMW bikes. Huh? The OP clearly started this thread about the 1600. The other bikes have very little similarity even.

Everyone here seems to ignore the most obvious data point: There are 10X (or maybe even 50X) more GL1800 sold and on the road than any comparable BMW. That kinda says it all.

The "Con" argument: The GL1800 is way way out of date. It's a late 1990s design. It's 25 years old for gosh sakes. That it still sits on top of the pile is a huge compliment to Honda.... but it's time for a major redesign instead of periodic tweaks.

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All this talk comparing reliability of a wing to a BMW? Get real. I can hop on a 15 year old, or even a 25 year old wing with 150K on it and take off cross country and fully expect to make it on time and problem free. There is no comparison to the wing for 2 up, day in day out, loaded down, riding hard in any weather, go where you want when you want, maintenance free riding. Carry on arguing about 2nd place....

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I'm calling you out as BS on this claim!
BOTH of my GTL's came with FACTORY engine guards. Do you want the part numbers?
Gotta love Internet forums: People trolling, talking enough crap and sadly some people take them for an authority!
I am not calling you a liar here, but I am confused about this statement. I have looked at many different K1600 models in showrooms, and seen many pictures. But I have never seen anything that resembles an engine guard, fairing guard, or saddlebag guard. As others have noted, it appears that even a simple drop of this bike would cause extensive damage.

Here is a picture of the top of the line K1600GTL Exclusive. Can you point out to me where the engine guard is at? I honestly don't see anything. (But then again, sometimes I can't see my car keys when they are sitting right in front of me.)
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I wonder if k1600 guys put car tires on their bike.

edit : don't drop a bmw without engine guards. they're not protected like our goldwings. tons of $$$$ to repair
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Here is a picture of the top of the line K1600GTL Exclusive. Can you point out to me where the engine guard is at? I honestly don't see anything. (But then again, sometimes I can't see my car keys when they are sitting right in front of me.)
Sorry but the pic did not come through, but if you look just behind the lower fog LED lights you'll see a rounded guard running at a 45 degree angle. This is what we attach our highway pegs to.
The side bag guards are an option that I don't use as I normally leave the side bags off unless we are touring cross country. The BMW case guards are OK but this fellow forum member makes an affordable set that worked pretty well according to those that have had the mishap drop.
http://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-...over-bars.html
I can personally testify that my Exclusive went down while practicing slow speed U turns and other than a scuffed mirror and scratch to the highway pegs there was no major damage.
The 2k damage some GTL owners have spoke on were for the first run of bikes that did not have the engine protection bars and yes some drops were costly. I waited two years for them to get the kinks out.
That being said, the K1600 is so incredibly FUN to drive, each and every time.
And no, after 4 years of ownership not one failure other than factory switch upgrade/bulletins- although there wasn't any problems with either of mine. BTW I can change the oil, final drive, and AIR FILTER in under 2 hours! How long does it take to change the air filter your Wing?
It's like the GW forum, if I search out the problems and warts there is plenty of material.
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I am not calling you a liar here, but I am confused about this statement. I have looked at many different K1600 models in showrooms, and seen many pictures. But I have never seen anything that resembles an engine guard, fairing guard, or saddlebag guard. As others have noted, it appears that even a simple drop of this bike would cause extensive damage.

Here is a picture of the top of the line K1600GTL Exclusive. Can you point out to me where the engine guard is at? I honestly don't see anything. (But then again, sometimes I can't see my car keys when they are sitting right in front of me.)

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