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post #41 of 50 (permalink) Old 04-19-2017, 06:35 AM
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I've found corrosion on rear wheel studs on multiple bikes. My personal recommendation would be to put a very light coat of anti-sieze on the rear wheel studs. to prevent this.
What torque should be used to compensate for the lubrication of the anti-seize?

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What torque should be used to compensate for the lubrication of the anti-seize?
A quick web search advises about 25% reduction.

http://www.antiseize.com/PDFs/torque_specifications.pdf
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A quick web search advises about 25% reduction.

http://www.antiseize.com/PDFs/torque_specifications.pdf
Thank you. I have seen various numbers on the web. I would like to hear what members here have used with success.

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Thank you. I have seen various numbers on the web. I would like to hear what members here have used with success.
I don't know if anyone on here has actually done this but there is information in that article that tells you how to determine this yourself.

Paraphrased.... Tighten the dry nut to the desired torque. Mark the nut and the base in a single line. Remove the nut and add the anti-sieze. Re-tighten to the same point so that the lines match and note the lower torque. Difference between the dry torque number and the lower torque number to get to the same point in thread (which translates to clamping force) is the reduction needed for that fastener because of lubricant. (obviously you need a beam type torque wrench or one that shows progressive torque to do this as a click type one won't work)

The answer will be different in almost every application so I'd be careful using the general 25% number.

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This will help. Loosening the others will put more pressure on the stuck one. Tightening the others will bring it back to normal.

Also...a 3/4 socket is 19.05mm so just a tad big. Add in machining tolerances and you may be .1 or .2 mm big so better to get a real 19mm.
Thank you twowheelnut ... ALWAYS use the proper sized metric wrench/socket. Learned my lesson on that many years ago.


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Thank you twowheelnut ... ALWAYS use the proper sized metric wrench/socket. Learned my lesson on that many years ago.
That was my main problem. After Dave (2wheelNut) pointed out the small but real size discrepancy I went to Lowes and bought a 19MM Impact 6 point socket to replace my 3/4" impact 6 point socket and it came right off.

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There are a couple things here that should be mentioned. Don't use the anti-sieze unless you are having problems. You don't need to coat the entire stud with the stuff. If you buy it in a tube run a single THIN line of the stuff along the length of the stud. Then install the nut.That will do the job.
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There are a couple things here that should be mentioned. Don't use the anti-sieze unless you are having problems. You don't need to coat the entire stud with the stuff. If you buy it in a tube run a single THIN line of the stuff along the length of the stud. Then install the nut.That will do the job.
Agreed....most people are reluctant to use anti-seize at all on lug nut studs but in some cases it is useful. However, even the people that advocate using it will tell you that a little bit goes a long way.

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I think we should have a section on the site titled Paranoia, we could start it off will crush washers, oils and wheel nuts....
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I've just reviewed my list of things I worry about...... lug nuts is not on the list.
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