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post #21 of 38 (permalink) Old 04-15-2017, 08:28 AM
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As I've become more mature, my body does NOT handle hot weather as well as it did in my youth. So, I'm exploring options. And I know this topic has been beat to death, but here goes.

I've read a lot on this forum from you guys about wet LDComfort shirts and textile jackets vented out. When I've tried that here in Arkansas, mostly I just create a sauna in my jacket which makes things much worse. I suspect it may be my textile jacket that is causing that problem? I've had it for YEARS and use it exclusively during the winter months. It has several zipper vents but they are all around the arm pits and lower back. Nothing on the chest or upper back of the jacket.

My question: I need recommendations for a good textile jacket with good venting that is being used successfully with the wet shirt. One jacket that I've found on Revzilla is the Joe Rocket Atomic 5? Looks interesting, but with no experience or knowledge, I'm a little hesitant to place the order. Also, it bothers me a little that the color is mostly black which is the hottest color one can get?

Another reason for the question: Last year I started using a Glacier Tek vest, which helped me a LOT. But I'm using it with a mesh jacket. I think maybe it might last longer with a Textile jacket with better arm venting?

So, that about covers it. Thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated.
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I'll throw one more nugget out here, not only for @Monk , but for the others that are learning about this "cover up to get cool" wisdom:

http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf

For years, my wife was a skeptic...and she regularly suffered.
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As I've become more mature, my body does NOT handle hot weather as well as it did in my youth. So, I'm exploring options. And I know this topic has been beat to death, but here goes.

I've read a lot on this forum from you guys about wet LDComfort shirts and textile jackets vented out. When I've tried that here in Arkansas, mostly I just create a sauna in my jacket which makes things much worse. I suspect it may be my textile jacket that is causing that problem? I've had it for YEARS and use it exclusively during the winter months. It has several zipper vents but they are all around the arm pits and lower back. Nothing on the chest or upper back of the jacket.

My question: I need recommendations for a good textile jacket with good venting that is being used successfully with the wet shirt. One jacket that I've found on Revzilla is the Joe Rocket Atomic 5? Looks interesting, but with no experience or knowledge, I'm a little hesitant to place the order. Also, it bothers me a little that the color is mostly black which is the hottest color one can get?

Another reason for the question: Last year I started using a Glacier Tek vest, which helped me a LOT. But I'm using it with a mesh jacket. I think maybe it might last longer with a Textile jacket with better arm venting?

So, that about covers it. Thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated.
I know this thread has been beat to death. But being an old guy and absolutely not handling heat like I used to, I must add that I have a mesh riding jacket with removable liner with proper armor made by Firstgear and a soaker vest. In my dry arid west Texas area that does the trick for me. In more humid conditions, not so great. My new rule is to make myself drink more water or tea and stop more often. If it gets too hot, stop riding. This is the concession I have made for being 69. Ride on!!

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I'll throw one more nugget out here, not only for @Monk , but for the others that are learning about this "cover up to get cool" wisdom:

http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf

For years, my wife was a skeptic...and she regularly suffered.
Great article.
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I'll throw one more nugget out here, not only for @Monk , but for the others that are learning about this "cover up to get cool" wisdom:

http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf

For years, my wife was a skeptic...and she regularly suffered.
Bubba1 told us for years to throw away the mesh jackets. He said to cover up, wear full textile, with LD Comfort underneath. It sounded counterintuitive at first but once I tried it I became a believer. The Ironbutt article lends scientific credibility to the wisdom that Ken Hatch had been laying down.

The hardcore riders in the Ironbutt rally cover up and block themselves from all that "cooling air" when they go on their 11 day, 11,000 mile ride in July temperatures above 90 F. I figure they know what they're doing so I wear my heavy textile gear year round, even in hot and humid Southeast Texas. YMMV.

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If it's during the dog days of summer when it's in the high 90's close to 100 degrees, there's nothing you can do to keep cool on a bike. I normally just get out early as possible around 6 or 7am and ride until about 1pm and after that, I'm somewhere in the ac until the adict you, butsun starts going down. I'll get sick on that kind of heat, I just can't do it.


I am sorry to contradict you, but you CAN stay cool in hot weather. I purchased a Veskimo vest and cooler when I bought my last bike. I have ridden in 113 degree heat and high humidity, and managed to stay comfortable. I need to keep the cool air in contact with my body, so I wear my jacket liner under my mesh jacket. Otherwise, the ice melts in 1/2 hour or so. Without the Veskimo, I would have had to turn around and head home.

The only problem with the Veskimo is the tiny volume of the cooler. I had to replenish the ice at every fillup, and still expended the ice. I finally added a 12v pump and fittings to a larger cooler and can now ride all day in comfort. The new cooler is too big to fit in the back seat, so Installed a cooler rack on my hitch and mount the cooler there.

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I'll throw one more nugget out here, not only for @Monk , but for the others that are learning about this "cover up to get cool" wisdom:

http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf

For years, my wife was a skeptic...and she regularly suffered.
This type of information is what prompted my question at the beginning of this thread. The information makes sense.

But here in Arkansas with the type of riding I do, my success has been very limited. Which brings me back to the textile jacket that I'm asking about? Would a different jacket make a significant difference?

I think my problem comes back to @2WheelNut and his statement about our speeds on the twisty roads. We can't maintain the speeds that the Ironbutt guys can on their rides. And the slower pace turns into a lot of heat trapped in the jacket. Or at least that has been my experience.
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Oddball here mesh jackets work great for me ! when it's really hot like 90 plus I sometimes will pour water on my T shirt , yes the wet T shirt only cools me for an hour or two but that's plenty good . tried the LDC stuff and to me it was just waaaay overpriced underwear and I actually couldn't wat to get the stuff off, but lots of my friends swear buy it. There is usually a extra quart of water in the trunk when it's hot out and I usually have no problem stopping to drink or rewet the shirt if that's what I need. For me it's usually not some kind of race type thing I'm just out to enjoy the ride. If I lived someplace where it was really hot often I probably would try one of those cooling vests.
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I remember last year at labor day weekend when we rode with you. That ice pack vest you have looked to me the way to go. I always have used a mesh jacket and I use the cooling wrap that you tie around neck. They say if your head and brain are comfortable your body thinks it is. I think I am going to get one of the Glacier Tec vest for this summer. Hope to see you soon.
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Monk ....you had asked about jackets that would allow good ventilation. My suggestion is the Tour Master Transition 4. This is a really good all in one jacket that won't break the bank. This is a one jacket for your whole trip deal that reduces your luggage requirements. I believe Tour Master is about the best bang for the buck. They are not the best gear you can buy BUT they are good quality for reasonable money. This jacket does it all.... hot (with evaporative cooling) warm..... rain..... cold. I have Tour Master gear and Olympia gear and I think the Tour Master does what it needs to for the money. I read here you were going with the cooling vest but take a look at this jacket as it might fit your requirements as a touring jacket. I am always looking to reduce luggage and weight that I carry on trips and this type of gear is gold..... https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...ition-4-jacket
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