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Low speed "flop"?

I am still trying to get use to my 2003 ....it's great at highway speeds but in the parking lot doing my low speed maneuvers like U-turns the bike turns into itself and I have to really be on top of the handlebars to keep it from flopping over. I have already dropped it once a couple of months ago while doing a low speed U-turn. I have researched the forums and at this point I dont know if this is normal due the weight of the bike or is it me? Is it possible there is a problem in the tree area, bearings? I dont know enough about the bike to know what to look for. Ideally I would love to have an experienced GW rider do a few minutes with it to let me know...Brent
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Brent, I have two Wings, a '76 and a '99.
Both of them did what you describe. The '76 did
it excessively!!
I changed the front tires on both bikes to Michellin
Commander II tires and the handling of both
bikes has become completely neutral.
Also, on the '99 I could not let go of the bars at
any speed. Changing to the Michellin cured that too.
I can now safely take my hands off of the bars
and the bike tracks straight.
There is no doubt in my mind that the front tires
of both bikes were causing that problem.
Just my two cents worth.

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Brent, I have two Wings, a '76 and a '99.
Both of them did what you describe. The '76 did
it excessively!!
I changed the front tires on both bikes to Michellin
Commander II tires and the handling of both
bikes has become completely neutral.
Also, on the '99 I could not let go of the bars at
any speed. Changing to the Michellin cured that too.
I can now safely take my hands off of the bars
and the bike tracks straight.
There is no doubt in my mind that the front tires
of both bikes were causing that problem.
Just my two cents worth.
Thanks for the info...I have the Bridgestone tire on the front from the previous owner. It is dated 2012 so I am going to be replacing it. Funny you mention tracking...I forgot to mention that if I let go of the bars at highway speed it always wants to steer right...on any road so I am sure it is not the crown of the road...what pressure do you run in the front tire..I am at 41 cold
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Since you have an early bike, if there hasn't been much or any servicing of the front forks there is likely to be a degree of wear in them so this will add so the difficulty of low speed handling. The GW does suffer from some flexing in the front end which hinders slow manoeuvring to some extent. If the forks are good, you'll likely find that a fork brace will provide a noticeable improvement. As a riding tip, be positive about your turns and don't take them too slowly. Apply throttle and use the clutch for speed control. Also, many of us find slow speed in second gear to be smoother than using first gear and, personally, I apply a fair amount of rear brake too which stabilises the bike.

Most bikes fall in as you instigate a turn and you do have to hold back the bars to prevent it being excessive. Left turns may be easier than right turns because your throttle hand tends to accelerate the bike in that direction, when right turning you'll need to deliberately crank your wrist back to keep pressure on the throttle, especially so on a tight, slow turn - applying power helps hold the bike up.
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...what pressure do you run in the front tire..I am at 41 cold
Don't you have a sticker in the trunk which tells you it's 36 front and 41 rear no matter what the bike load?
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Since you have an early bike, if there hasn't been much or any servicing of the front forks there is likely to be a degree of wear in them so this will add so the difficulty of low speed handling. The GW does suffer from some flexing in the front end which hinders slow manoeuvring to some extent. If the forks are good, you'll likely find that a fork brace will provide a noticeable improvement. As a riding tip, be positive about your turns and don't take them too slowly. Apply throttle and use the clutch for speed control. Also, many of us find slow speed in second gear to be smoother than using first gear and, personally, I apply a fair amount of rear brake too which stabilises the bike.

Most bikes fall in as you instigate a turn and you do have to hold back the bars to prevent it being excessive. Left turns may be easier than right turns because your throttle hand tends to accelerate the bike in that direction, when right turning you'll need to deliberately crank your wrist back to keep pressure on the throttle, especially so on a tight, slow turn - applying power helps hold the bike up.
The bike does have a fork brace installed so I am sure that is helping. I too like using 2nd gear but I use first gear when I have my wife on the back with the rear shock up at 25. I should schedule a maintenance check at the Honda dealer to see if there is an issue and if the recalls have been performed which I do not believe they have.
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Don't you have a sticker in the trunk which tells you it's 36 front and 41 rear no matter what the bike load?
Nope ..no sticker...
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Nope ..no sticker...
41 is good number.
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Don't you have a sticker in the trunk which tells you it's 36 front and 41 rear no matter what the bike load?
I think if you take a poll you will find that there are more riders using 41 PSI in both front and rear than the "recommended" 36 front/41 rear. Most of us prefer the better handling then the softer ride you might get.


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I think if you take a poll you will find that there are more riders using 41 PSI in both front and rear than the "recommended" 36 front/41 rear. Most of us prefer the better handling then the softer ride you might get.
I'm running 41 in the front..have a CT on the rear...
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