I don't really think that the real reason is to prevent you having your license suspended, but rather about some uncertainty with the new bike and how it behaves at high speeds. Maybe they don't telling us everything...

 

I'm sure that Honda has tested the bike at its full potential.
Probably some lawyers got involved.


Rayjoe

 

The dreaded front end wobble at 120MPH... with no hands on the grips!!

 

...and while standing on the foot pegs. >

 

I think my 09 was the fastest Wing however my 12 with 2-up is no slouch. I think the 2018 with its gearing can beat me to up to 112 mph however I can out run them in 4th gear for top speed riding 2-up.
I read the 2012 was certified at a top speed of 130 mph only to be beat by a Honda VTX1800 with no Wind Screen.
I don't think the top speed is as important as the time to reach 112 for safe passing.

Although I am a senior I will be sixteen next year >

 

Like you I'm 60 going on 16. That 112 may be plenty , I just hate somebody restricting me. My B was limited to about 125/127. I tried it. Guhl removed that. I just want it to be all it can be whether I choose to use it or not. I mean I paid for it. I should get its full capability.

 

Is the Speed Limiter is implemented on all Wings no matter what country they are being shipped to? Where did Honda publish this Limit, not doubting anyone just curious.

 

Like you, I was somewhat skeptical about the validity of the speed limiter's existence until Fred Harmon verified it from the Honda reps. I figure that very soon somebody will test their new Wing and report on it.

On edit, I wonder if the new standard Wing might reach that speed at the end of a 1/4 mile.

Glen

 

Always somebody wanting to pee in your Koolaid Ray.

 

I bet I can make it go 115 NO PROBLEM....


there is really NO REASON to go anywhere north of 120, except to say you did it...... of 10 years of ownership of our beloved wing, I may gave had it over 110 half a dozen times, and just for a short burst......going 100 mph for 100’s of miles is all I will ever need/want,,

Mattbcnv

 

there is really NO REASON to go anywhere north of 120, except to say you did it...... of 10 years of ownership of our beloved wing, I may gave had it over 110 half a dozen times, and just for a short burst......going 100 mph for 100’s of miles is all I will ever need/want,,

Mattbcnv

There is really NO REASON to own a motorcycle. But we do!!!

I used to own a Blackbird. But that's another story.


Have fun,

Rayjoe

 

I have to agree with Matt here, as much as I like speed, I don't get north of 120 too often. Lot's of reasons including Smokey, mileage, extended risk. Now I just won't get north of 112, unless of course I put in that new chip they are now offering for $49.95 which will allow the bike to hit 150+ mph uphill with a headwind!

 

Since 1988 Japan has limited the speed on cars to 180 km/h (112 mph). Coincidence? Do a search on Japan 180 km/h limit for more info.

Ron

 

Really, 112 MPH on the road on any bike...Really?? Look I love speed as much as anybody,but if you want to ride your Wing @ 112 mph 120mph...do it on a race track that just my Opinion

John

 

Ditto!:wink2:

 

and you can just go get any bike a and go . not all can
https://www.japanistry.com/getting-a-motorcycle-license-in-japan/

 

Limits are bad.

My 2012 F 150 was limited to 105 or 108 or something in that range. It really scared me when it kicked in at the wrong time when I didn't know it was there. I was passing an 18 wheeler and a 2 cars behind it in limited space because I was tired of following them at 10 below the speed limit. Getting the pass done quickly, I hit the limiter right about the time I was even with the 18 wheeler with my lane running out in front of me. It really didn't matter at that point if I was going 105 or 110 as I was going to make the pass but it's pretty scary when your engine starts stuttering in that situation as you are totally committed to the pass and it wouldn't be good at all if you couldn't finish it.

Anyway....I'm not saying that I wouldn't buy a new Wing that is limited, but it's definitely not a plus in my book and I'd much rather that Honda did not impose this limit on the Wing.

PS...hopefully it's not a stability thing. If it really is the case that the Wing becomes unstable after 112 MPH so they had to limit it......that is something that does not inspire confidence in the design in my opinion.

 

My F150 had that also. An Edge Programmer removed it.

 

Yeah...I was going to do that but I really didn't like the truck anyway so it became one more reason to get rid of it. Eventually, a new Grand Cherokee fixed mine.

 

I think they should put a limiter on it of about 150. I would sign off on that.

 

There is no limiter on other bikes from Japan, so there has to be a real reason for it. If the reason is stability or any other reason that makes the bike unsafe going over that speed, it means that the design they worked on for many years may let them down, or they just haven't completely finished something yet didn't want to postpone the production for any longer.
We can just speculate, but I don't know who really can answer this question.

 

Maybe it has nothing to do with the actual motorcycle?
How about the tires' heat buildup and possible de-lamination?
Perhaps Honda wouldn't want to scrap it out in court with Bridgestone over any possible liability issues, so they limited top speed on Bridgestone's recommendation?
For those putting on tires other than those recommended in the owner's manual (Bridgestone), it would be caveat emptor.

 

I think a lot of bikes are limited at 300 kph....that translates to 186 MPH. My GSXR gets to 186 MPH and the speedometer just flashes 186. It was on a track and the next turn was coming up after the straight so I didn't get to stay there long. I didn't feel the engine stop pulling so I'm not sure if it actually limited it to 186 or if it just didn't display more than 186. Either way...I didn't feel too limited. I could live with that kind of limit. (BTW...before people start calling BS that I got the bike up to that speed on the track, I didn't. According to the GPS, I was really only going about 165 but I had it geared lower for track so the bike thought it was going 186 but it was really about 165)

PS... on the "it's limited because of some "reason" argument. I suppose it's possible....but that F150 was certainly capable of more than 105 and Ford decided to limit it when they don't limit their Mustangs or other cars. I think sometimes companies just decide that there's no good reason for a vehicle to be going faster than some number and set a limit. Ford obviously decided that 105 was all that their pickup needed to go when it was capable of much more. Maybe they do it for liability or insurance or social justice....not really sure....other than I don't like limits.

 

I don't know about you Nut , but I've got enough natural limits. Bad back , bad knees etc. I don't need anybody imposing any more limits on me.

 

Probably a Ruger #1.

 

TC Contender, but I would like to find a Ruger #1 in 45/70

 

I can't say it would be an issue with me because I have rarely went over that on my Goldwing, but I can see how it's going to be a problem for some of the performance oriented guys. It's going to be hard to explain to their buddies why a Harley just blowed by their new sportier Goldwing. Lol



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Speed limiter is not a problem for me, I'm a law abiding citizen.:grin2:

 

Not at 111.9 mph you won't be. :wink2:

 

My KTM has warning stickers inside the saddlebags saying not to exceed 110 MPH with the saddlebags on. The saddlebags are removable and there is no speed limiter that I'm aware of on the bike. KTM obviously believes that the aerodynamics are different with the saddlebags on and caution you to avoid exceeding a speed threshold because of this. (either that, or they are worried the saddlebags might get sucked open at too high of a speed and that would cause instability)

Anyway....the Wing could have a similar situation. They could have found some instability with cross winds or whatever in a wind tunnel when exceeding 112. In reality it was probably 112 with a cross wind or head wind which made the actual wind speed even higher. But...rather than saying don't go over a certain "wind speed" or citing a specific cross wind situation which most users wouldn't really understand, maybe they chose to just limit it.

Just a theory....

 

One things for sure Nut , they might and I mean might get us in the quarter , but we are going around in the half.

 

Reminds me of a person I know who had a buddy whose bike wouldn't go more than 92 so he repeatedly would set the cruise at 93 on trips just to slowly pull away from the guy and irritate him.

I think the guy traded in that slow bike and now rides a bike capable of about 140. I suppose he decided he'd had enough of being limited.

In all honesty, 112 really isn't too bad. I don't typically ride the wing that fast so it wouldn't limit me much. However, it would honestly bug me that it was limited and since I probably will keep my 2013 for a bit, I'll definitely have to ride away from someone on a 2018 at just over 112 because I can. I'm still kind of immature like that. Sorry.

I'm guessing Guhl or somebody will crack the ECM and remove the limitation before too long anyway....

 

Yeah but until then..........

 

I don't care who you are that's funny right there.

 

I am not a big fan of limits, but it has been really funny reading about how upset people are over this.

I tried really hard, but I'm having a difficult time feeling sorry for anybody on this. ....... Ok, that's a lie. I didn't really try all that hard.

All they are trying to do is make it easier for the ambulance driver to find the body.

 

Hey , 112 or 150 , the body is always gonna be at the scene of the crash. Its very seldom the Riders fault anyway. Usually a cager. Maybe if it was faster a cager couldn't keep up.

 

UNREAL...some pretty stupid (IMO) comments...

John

 

Agreed.