refilling shock actuator - GL1800Riders

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-30-2012, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
Seasoned Member
 
driver10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: N W Oklahoma
Posts: 289
refilling shock actuator

Id like to know what type oil you use to refill actuator ,Im going to service it tomarrow if Im not recalled to work tonight.
Thanks for advise
driver10 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-30-2012, 08:22 PM
Seasoned Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 11,183
I have not had to work on that component yet but know some have used 5W Honda Suspension Fluid.
TravelinLite is offline  
post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-30-2012, 08:22 PM
Seasoned Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: cheyenne wyoming
Posts: 350
According to Fred, the oil to use is the Honda brand ss7 5 weight suspension oil. I paid 6 bucks for the bottle.

If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car, and then come back in four hours, only your dog will be glad to see you.

DS 1155
august is offline  
post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-30-2012, 08:36 PM
Seasoned Member
 
ElBando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NE Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,878
I used Honda suspension fluid 10

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
2006 GL1800 ( Ours )
2007 DL650 ABS ( she thinks it's hers, but it's MINE )
2004 DR200SE ( Hers )
2001 VLX 600 ( retired )
1991 250L XR (Hers)
1983 250R XL ( His )
1974 CB360 ( retired )
2000 4 X 4 Rancher ( Hers)
2000 4 X 4 Rancher ( His )
All from the same people who brought to you
" Pearl Harbor"

AMA Member
Patriot Guard Rider
Navy Veteran
ElBando is offline  
post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-30-2012, 09:21 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Watching Karma unfold
Posts: 11,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by driver10 View Post
Id like to know what type oil you use to refill actuator ,Im going to service it tomarrow if Im not recalled to work tonight.
Thanks for advise

To refill the actuator.

1) Place the bike on center stand.
2) Start the bike and lower your presets to "0'.
3) Remove the seat and side covers.
4) Remove the rear fender.
5) Remove the three bolts inside the right saddlebag.
6) Remove the bolt on the outside upper right of the saddlebag to the frame.
7) Now tilt out the bottom of the saddlebag and let it rest there-You do not have to disconnect anything further!
8 ) Now remove the 2-12mm & 1-10mm bolts from the Actuator securing it to the frame.
9) Now with a pair of needle nosed pliers-squeeze the push in cable holder for the Grey connector.
10) Now you can remove the other connector from the Actuator.
11) Now using brake clean,Spray the area at the banjo bolt/hose so it is clean-You'll be making marks on it there!.
12) Now with a sharpie-make a dot on the top of the banjo "Fitting".So you'll know which end is up later on!.
13) Now make a small line right under the dot you just made to the actuator body.What you are doing here is marking the Orientation of the banjo fitting to the actuator body!. Making Sure you put it back in the same place-this is Important so the hose doesn't get kinked when the actuator is bolted back on the frame later!!.
14) Now you can remove the 10mm banjo bolt from the hose.
15) Either with a helper or duct/masking tape-try and keep that end of the hose as high as you can so fluid doesn't drain out of it while you continue to the next step.(I run the tape up from the hose to the truck if working by myself!)This keeps the hose out of my way for the time being.
16) Now with a thin screwdriver,Insert it into the banjo bolt hole in the actuator,and push the seal piston down with a little pressure until it bottoms out.If you feel or hear it move?.Then try to push it down again until it stays down!.You're trying to fill as much of the actuator reservoir as possible here!.
17) Now you are ready to refill the actuator.it only takes a couple ounces to top it off.I use SS8-10wt oil.
18 ) Once you have it topped off,Now replace the hose according to the marks you made earlier.
19) Now before you bolt it back on-"Test it first"
20) Plug both connectors back in the actuator,an start the bike.
21) Listen for a "Sound" pitch change as you add presets.Once you hear it change sound-Let the button go,and look at the dash-If it's at "0" then you are done,If it at 1 or more.repeat the last steps to add a tad more fluid.

Your goal is to hear a sound change at 0-1.

Hope this helps.
Rocky is offline  
post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 07:57 AM Thread Starter
Seasoned Member
 
driver10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: N W Oklahoma
Posts: 289
Thanks everyone for the advise, Im heating up the garage now to start taking the Blue Ox apart and when the stealer finally opens up at 10 oclock Ill be there to see if I can get the oil.
driver10 is offline  
post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 08:47 AM
Seasoned Member
 
WingMan71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,253
Garage
I've heard some on this forum say they used hydraulic jack fluid.

I plan on doing mine soon, and am wondering if it's OK to use that.

***

--------------------------------
2006 GL1800 - Arctic White
1987 GL1200A - Black/Gray
1981 CB750 Custom - Blue/Blue
1969 BSA 650 Lightning - Red/Chrome
U.S. Navy SWO (1967 to 1976)
WingMan71 is offline  
post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 08:54 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Watching Karma unfold
Posts: 11,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by WingMan71 View Post
I've heard some on this forum say they used hydraulic jack fluid.

I plan on doing mine soon, and am wondering if it's OK to use that.

***
As long as it's in the 5-10 wt oil range then yes.
Rocky is offline  
post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 12:37 PM
Seasoned Member
 
GoldWingrGreg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Zephyrhills, FL - 25 miles NE of Tampa, FL
Posts: 12,316
Quote:
Originally Posted by WingMan71 View Post
I've heard some on this forum say they used hydraulic jack fluid.

I plan on doing mine soon, and am wondering if it's OK to use that.

***
That was the first thing that came to my mind too. Then I remembered that it is a shock too with dampening so the weight of the oil is important.

Advice is like cooking ... I always try it before I feed it to others !!!
Florida Prowler #78
GoldWingrGreg is offline  
post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 01:11 PM
Seasoned Member
 
WingMan71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,253
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
That was the first thing that came to my mind too. Then I remembered that it is a shock too with dampening so the weight of the oil is important.
Greg, help me out here. That confuses me a bit.

I thought that the actuator system that sets the preload on the spring is a completely separate hydraulic system from the actual shock absorber (damper unit) itself. I don't believe that any of the oil that is in the actuator system ever sees the inside of the actual shock absorber. It only mechanically sets the spring preload. The shock looks like a sealed damper unit just like a standard shock on a car, and it's damping rate never changes other than by wearing out of the internal components or a leak.

Am I all wet here, or am I right about these two system being completely separate from each other in regards to the hydraulic fluid in each?

***

--------------------------------
2006 GL1800 - Arctic White
1987 GL1200A - Black/Gray
1981 CB750 Custom - Blue/Blue
1969 BSA 650 Lightning - Red/Chrome
U.S. Navy SWO (1967 to 1976)
WingMan71 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the GL1800Riders forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This Thread is more than 1632 days old. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
If you still feel it is necessary to make a new reply, you can still do so though.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome