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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 06-03-2016, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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Sena catching up? Bluetooth with CB through the headset?

For those who use or want to use bluetooth headsets it looks like Sena has finally realized there's a giant Goldwing and Harley market. It's not available yet but I was looking at their website and found this:

http://www.sena.com/product/freewire/

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When you connect the FreeWire to your Harley-Davidson or Honda Gold Wing, you can utilize all of the bike’s infotainment features that you love – WIRELESSLY! Communicate via CB radio, hear turn-by-turn directions from the GPS system, rock out to your favorite radio stations and so much more – all through your Bluetooth headset. Use an additional FreeWire for your passenger to talk over the motorcycle’s internal intercom system – All with the wireless freedom you’ve been longing for.

I've been using J&M's bluetooth dongle with the Sena 20s for over a year and they work really well on the wing but it won't let you transmit to the CB through the headset. If that works on the Sena unit and it's stereo sound it should be a pretty big seller. Not sure I really have a use for a CB on the wing so not sure I'd make the switch now. I drive a Jeep and the only time I turn the CB on is when I'm with others playing in the desert.
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That's awesome. I'm currently using the Sierra Bluetooth wiring harness for CB use with my Sena 20S headset, but it's a bit clunky in operation.

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Well that looks promisingly slick. Timing is perfect, as I just pulled the trigger on a BT dongle from Amazon to make my DIY CB TX hack a la wingwing. Literally an hour ago, so as you were posting this. Though with the water already under my bridge, I'd carry on that course anyway.

I just scanned the listing at the link. Intrigued by the power bits -- a) on/off with the bike, and b) (not sure) able to charge from the bike without the feedback problem of the SM10. Downside seems to be that the passenger needs their own, though perhaps that's only to talk on the CB and it may transmit to two A2DPs like the SM10 does. I didn't see clearly what the deal is there.
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What's the process for using a SENA 10U (installed in a Schuberth lid)? Does it work the same as the SENA 20?



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This looks promising!!!! Thanks for alerting us @jeshepar
Might be the perfect solution for those of us with Bluetooth helmets and OEM CB radio
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What's the process for using a SENA 10U (installed in a Schuberth lid) to pick up the bike's radio wirelessly? The SENA had built in FM but, I like baseball games on AM and they lack AM.
Question is...just how big of a baseball fan are you.
Here's what I have:
http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....MBT-DNG22-A2DP
It's super easy to install and pair to. Mine is in the left pocket. Now the heartbreaker. It's 400 bucks and you need a $120 connection harness from them also.

I went ahead and did it when I got my wing (with XM and GPS) over a year ago because I already had another bike with BT XM radio and GPS that I don't plan to get rid of. I think the Sierra setup is mono music and it's a bit awkward. I hope the Sena unit comes out at a reasonable price. Until then there's no real competition for J&M.

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What's the process for using a SENA 10U (installed in a Schuberth lid) to pick up the bike's radio wirelessly? The SENA had built in FM but, I like baseball games on AM and they lack AM.
Get an SM10 and the adapter for the Honda 5-pin DIN to get bike audio out from the driver's wired headset stub. All in, about $140. Mount in left pocket. And if you don't already have one, get a USB external battery / power pack ($15-$25) so you can charge the SM10 when it gets low, since it buzzes when you try to run it with it plugged into the 12V socket.
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And if you don't already have one, get a USB external battery / power pack ($15-$25) so you can charge the SM10 when it gets low, since it buzzes when you try to run it with it plugged into the 12V socket.
Using a ground loop noise isolator will get rid of the buzzing from the SM10 when plugged into a 12v socket:
http://www.amazon.com/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-...ilpage_o03_s01
Works perfectly with my SM10 in the left cubby, though does take a little extra room. Looks like the Freewire won't need to go this route, though I am curious how it'll plug into the bike's power.
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^ I've used that exact same one. Didn't work for me. Though come to think of it now, there's a twist....

1) I used it between the GPS output and the SM10 input, to try to get rid of the buzz from GPS. Initially, was putting the GPS into the GL2Way CB 2nd radio input, the noise was enough to always trigger the CB RX and suppress all bike audio. Next, tried the GPS via that isolator into the SM10 aux input, still triggered the SM10 aux audio suppression but just some of the time, not all of the time. I'm not using either of those now, have the GPS tied into bike audio via the INT and AUX circuits.

2) I guess I could / should try that on the input between the Sena Goldwing 5-pin DIN adapter and the SM10. Maybe it will do the trick on the Sena charging ground loop, if not the one via the GPS. I'll probably try that in the near future.

How do you have it hooked up Rambler358?

BTW, the plug on my isolator is too fat to go into the weird little Sena weatherproof sockets. I wound up grinding some rubber off the isolator, though using one of the ancillary Sena cords as a jumper is probably a smarter idea.
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That's awesome. I'm currently using the Sierra Bluetooth wiring harness for CB use with my Sena 20S headset, but it's a bit clunky in operation.
Same here. Only thing out there for now.

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