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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-30-2016, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
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Stumble on 2014 and newer goldwings

Do any 2014 and newer Goldwing's still suffer from the Stumble. I am curious because the ECM has changed part numbers in 2014. The part sites state it is not compatible with the 2012 and I'm curious what changed.

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post #2 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-30-2016, 09:51 PM
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My '14 stumbles a little, I find its better if I let it warm up enough for the temp gauge to start moving. It's not a big deal to me since I can still remember what it was like to choke an older bike with a carb.
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I haven't experienced any stumble on my 15, but I let it warm up first.
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I have a new 15 and yes I have noticed the lean fuel condition if I take off with out a minute warm up.
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Do any 2014 and newer Goldwing's still suffer from the Stumble. I am curious because the ECM has changed part numbers in 2014. The part sites state it is not compatible with the 2012 and I'm curious what changed.
I had a GL15 back in 1992-2000. If I did not let it fully warm up before taking off, it would act like it wanted to stall out unless I feathered the clutch and throttle. It never did that after warming up.

I have a 2014 GL18. It sounds crazy but this 2014 does exactly the same thing. I just let it warm up a bit before starting out. It sputtered once recently even though it was warmed up. Other than that one episode it acts the same as my 1992 when cold.

It is frustrating that in 22 years they make them with the same defect in operation even though the fuel system and engine size has changed. It must be in the Engineers' culture? Seems like the electronics ought to step in and force feed whatever fuel demand the throttle calls for---at any point after starting the engine. Otherwise, the only fix is a manual choke. Now there's a nostalgic idea....

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Remember it is not a "defect" rather it is a safety feature!




My 2001 and my 2015 do the same thing as does my K12 Beemer. The only one that does not do this is my R1200RTP for some reason....

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Could it be the Ethanol causing the leaner fuel condition?
This article about Ethanol is interesting in that the EPA agrees ethanol ruins motorcycle engines.
This line in the article is interesting and disturbing to me.


"No Japanese bikes and no Piaggio products can use it."


http://motorbikewriter.com/steer-cle...l-motorcycles/


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Could it be the Ethanol causing the leaner fuel condition?
In my experience, no.

91 octane gasoline in Canada has no ethanol.
My F6B still stumbles if I use the 91.
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Could it be the Ethanol causing the leaner fuel condition?
This article about Ethanol is interesting in that the EPA agrees ethanol ruins motorcycle engines.
This line in the article is interesting and disturbing to me.


"No Japanese bikes and no Piaggio products can use it."


http://motorbikewriter.com/steer-cle...l-motorcycles/


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E10 will be fine.

Don't run E85.

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