Here in the Carolinas, I see 20 Electra Glides for every 1 Gold Wing. Up in the mountains, the ratio goes down to, maybe, 15 to 1. Now, I like the Electra Glide well enough, but for about the same money, it ain't no Gold Wing. What gives? :shrug:
I guess I am just an eternal optimist.:shrug: Sometimes people realize they went to far, and just need a little coaxing to let it go.Did you forget where you are or something? Like either of those is going to ever happen.
The only class the people you're speaking of, when the subject of Harleys comes up, is low.:nojoke:
sounds like you're jelous.............LOLAll I know is there were 50 or 60 of them damn pieces of crap. Oops I mean those wonderful Harleys, waiting in line on 44th ave in front of my shop and all of then were professional riders. I mean they got that Harley image, ride with a Tshirt, which doesn't bother me, but sit there reving their fart **** engines, Rum, RUM, rum, RUM, Rum, RUMM, Rum. 60 of these pieces of crap! I still call them piles and always will. I wish hunting season, I'd be out with a 12 guage aiming at the bastards. Why do they think we want to listen to them rev their engines eternally, constantly non-stop? I don't hear goldwings going rum,rum, rum? Junk don't idle without operator input I guess. If you think I don't like Harleys, you're mistaken, I just live to hear them things, NOT. Back in 1983 when the government bailed out that crap of this world, would have been the best thing to happen for 1000 years if they would have let them slip into the deep dark forgotten past and never be seen or heard from again.
Or, maybe your wife ran off with a Harley rider and you just can't get over it? More lol
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Many people share their reasons why they don't care for Harleys from a technical standpoint. But that is not hatred. If you were to sit down and seriously talk to someone who "Hates the mindless machine", I think you will find that the hatred always boils down to the noise.Harley just may be of one the most popular topics on this HONDA board. Page after page . . . page after page . . . great passion.
I think it is a given that few, if any, on this board are so out of proper mental adjustment that they are capable of hating a mindless machine. I don't believe that . . . don't want to believe it. Seems to me that we have one group of people with a strong dislike for another group of people.
And any other public place or ride. Poker runs, weekend rides, moving wall, rolling thunder, 9-11 rides, PGR activities, etc are ALL 99 to 1 HD's. The last PGR duty that I participated in there were about 75 scoots. 2 wings...I was one of them. I also noticed that a lot of the riders , like me, are vets but choose a different ride. We have lost our local Honda dealers here....I guess that selling lawn mowers and $12.00 oil filters just wasn't enuff to keep them going. I VERY rarely see a person under 50 on a wing, and usually they are 60 and up. Then comes the road tank trikes. Someone noted that HD riders are dying off...I think that a look at the wing ranks will reveal that age and/or the reaper has devastated the wing market also.you have to look far from where the bars and gas stations are. Thats where the Wing lives...
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you have an Electra Glide and don't go to bars. I am not talking about you.
Look in the bar parking lot and the ratio of HD's to other bikes is 99 to 1. maybe 2.
About a month ago, a friend of mine was helping her daughter look for a car. She suggested a Honda Accord. Her daughter's reaction was. "No way. That's a car for Old Farts." She bought a Honda Civic instead. So yes, to the younger generation, the Goldwing is an old man's bike. That should not be taken as an insult, but rather just a generation gap thing. Young people are not attracted to the same things that older people are attracted to. I'm not trying to fit in with the younger crowd. So that's ok. I don't see too many young people driving Cadillacs, Lincoln's Taurus's, and Lexus cars either. Those are for us older people. Would you stop listening to Jazz, or Bad Company, The Eagles, or other old classics just because it is not young and hip?I VERY rarely see a person under 50 on a wing, and usually they are 60 and up. Then comes the road tank trikes. Someone noted that HD riders are dying off...I think that a look at the wing ranks will reveal that age and/or the reaper has devastated the wing market also.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel toward HD's? :doorag:All I know is there were 50 or 60 of them damn pieces of crap. Oops I mean those wonderful Harleys, waiting in line on 44th ave in front of my shop and all of then were professional riders. I mean they got that Harley image, ride with a Tshirt, which doesn't bother me, but sit there reving their fart **** engines, Rum, RUM, rum, RUM, Rum, RUMM, Rum. 60 of these pieces of crap! I still call them piles and always will. I wish hunting season, I'd be out with a 12 guage aiming at the bastards. Why do they think we want to listen to them rev their engines eternally, constantly non-stop? I don't hear goldwings going rum,rum, rum? Junk don't idle without operator input I guess. If you think I don't like Harleys, you're mistaken, I just live to hear them things, NOT. Back in 1983 when the government bailed out that crap of this world, would have been the best thing to happen for 1000 years if they would have let them slip into the deep dark forgotten past and never be seen or heard from again.
:lol::lol::lol: :doorag:Or, maybe your wife ran off with a Harley rider and you just can't get over it? More lol
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Good one! ROTFLMAO :doorag:Or he found out that dad rode a Harley.
Glad you didn't forget about the metric cruiser loud pipe crowd, Larry. You forgot to include the metric crotch rocket crowd with their obnoxiously loud pipes.Many people share their reasons why they don't care for Harleys from a technical standpoint. But that is not hatred. If you were to sit down and seriously talk to someone who "Hates the mindless machine", I think you will find that the hatred always boils down to the noise.
Obviously the machine doesn't make noise on its own. The owner had to put those open pipes on it. The owner is the one sitting there in the parking lot or at the stop light revving the snot out of it in order to get people to notice them. It's the owner of the bike that feels the need to always announce their presence, disturbing the solitude and peace and quiet while people sit out on the patio or relax in a quiet park enjoying nature.
Not every Harley rider installs open pipes. And some Jap cruiser owners run open pipes too. But despite the exceptions, this is a problem primarily associated with Harleys, and for very good reason. If you own a Harley, you WILL be stereotyped.
As long as law enforcement allows the childish, self absorbed behavior to continue, and as long as Harley owners continue to force themselves into other people's lives, the distaste and hatred for Harleys will perpetuate. Whether you partake in it or not, you will always be associated with them. You want image, camaraderie, lifestyle, or whatever? Well that's the image that many non Harley people have of you, hatred. With few exceptions, Harley riders are respected and revered only by their fellow Harley owners and prepubescent teenagers. When heads turn as you rap the throttle, do not confuse this with admiration. They just want to know who the rude person is that interrupted their conversation. It isn't the Harley marketing machine that created this image. It is the riders themselves.
Many people on this board have made the silly comment that it is primarily Goldwing owners that hate Harleys. And somehow they are disillusioned into thinking the hatred is out of jealousy. But it isn't Goldwing owners that are banning motorcycles from parks, hotels, and beachfront rental properties. It isn't Goldwing owners that are creating city ordinances in an attempt to discourage Harley riders from traveling to their towns. (Myrtle Beach) We go to the Outer Banks for vacation every two years. Many of the rentals do not allow motorcycles. I have to beg and plead, and even email the agent pictures of my bike to show them that I do not ride a loud Harley. Sometimes they concede. Sometimes not.
These people don't care how slow or fast a Harley is. They just don't like having their lives disrupted by the noise. And the hatred by riders of other types of bikes increases every time they are denied access to something just because they are on a motorcycle. The longer the noise problem persists, the wider the gap between Harley and non Harley people will continue. Fortunately, since their are so many Harley riders out there, this isolationism will not be accompanied with loneliness.
Any Harley rider who does not understand where the hatred comes from, just isn't paying attention. If you want respect, you and your fellow riders have to act like you deserve it.
I don't agree with you that HD's lineup target basically the same type of rider and age group whether it's a Sportster or Ultra.First, Honda not only builds motorcycles for evFrom top to bottom, Harley's lineup target basically the same type of rider and age group, whether it is a Sportster or an Ultra.
I obviously am not aware of what is prevalent in other areas of the country. I can only go by what I see locally and when traveling.Glad you didn't forget about the metric cruiser loud pipe crowd, Larry. You forgot to include the metric crotch rocket crowd with their obnoxiously loud pipes.
Around here, there isn't one single sport bike that has the factory exhaust it was equipped with. They are as bad as the Harley "loud pipe" crowd you mention. They too have to rev the crap out of the engine so they can garner attention and look at me in my ricky racer suit or squidly me dressed up with a helmet, tank top, and sandals with my hot babe on back with her thong undies.
Around here, I'd say 90% of the metric cruiser crowd have aftermarket loud pipes trying to be a HD wannabe. People are just as annoyed with the loud exhaust noise from the metric crowd as they are with the loud HD crowd, and their behavior is just as childish. :doorag:
Is there a pill available for that? :shrug:Around here, and throughout the Midwest, where I travel most, this is a Harley epidemic.
Use caution while wiping, single ply toilet paper. Fingers may break through. :shock:Each day they put up more rules to protect us from ourselves. Soon there will be a warning on toilet paper......please wear rubber gloves. :evil:
Good for you! The majority, even here, mindlessly follow the crowd. It's nice to hear of someone who actually thinks on their own.I just watched the video a few posts up (posted by Slayzen) and I found out that some Wings have AC and an automatic transmission...really?:joke:
Concerning the noise ordnance they are enforcing it in Daytona for their Bike Week and Biketoberefest too, so for those of you who have two or more bikes (I'm jealous) don't bring the loud one to Florida.
I agree that some of the most level headed posts come from Kit Carson.
I always wanted a Goldwing going clear back to 1981 but could never afford one until recently so we go against the demographics of senior citizens on Goldwings. I'm more of a practical thinker than one who follows the crowd. Our last bike was a Kawasaki Voyager 1200 so that is probably the best proof that we make our own decisions.
:agree::agree::agree:Many people share their reasons why they don't care for Harleys from a technical standpoint. But that is not hatred. If you were to sit down and seriously talk to someone who "Hates the mindless machine", I think you will find that the hatred always boils down to the noise.
Obviously the machine doesn't make noise on its own. The owner had to put those open pipes on it. The owner is the one sitting there in the parking lot or at the stop light revving the snot out of it in order to get people to notice them. It's the owner of the bike that feels the need to always announce their presence, disturbing the solitude and peace and quiet while people sit out on the patio or relax in a quiet park enjoying nature.
Not every Harley rider installs open pipes. And some Jap cruiser owners run open pipes too. But despite the exceptions, this is a problem primarily associated with Harleys, and for very good reason. If you own a Harley, you WILL be stereotyped.
As long as law enforcement allows the childish, self absorbed behavior to continue, and as long as Harley owners continue to force themselves into other people's lives, the distaste and hatred for Harleys will perpetuate. Whether you partake in it or not, you will always be associated with them. You want image, camaraderie, lifestyle, or whatever? Well that's the image that many non Harley people have of you, hatred. With few exceptions, Harley riders are respected and revered only by their fellow Harley owners and prepubescent teenagers. When heads turn as you rap the throttle, do not confuse this with admiration. They just want to know who the rude person is that interrupted their conversation. It isn't the Harley marketing machine that created this image. It is the riders themselves.
Many people on this board have made the silly comment that it is primarily Goldwing owners that hate Harleys. And somehow they are disillusioned into thinking the hatred is out of jealousy. But it isn't Goldwing owners that are banning motorcycles from parks, hotels, and beachfront rental properties. It isn't Goldwing owners that are creating city ordinances in an attempt to discourage Harley riders from traveling to their towns. (Myrtle Beach) We go to the Outer Banks for vacation every two years. Many of the rentals do not allow motorcycles. I have to beg and plead, and even email the agent pictures of my bike to show them that I do not ride a loud Harley. Sometimes they concede. Sometimes not.
These people don't care how slow or fast a Harley is. They just don't like having their lives disrupted by the noise. And the hatred by riders of other types of bikes increases every time they are denied access to something just because they are on a motorcycle. The longer the noise problem persists, the wider the gap between Harley and non Harley people will continue. Fortunately, since their are so many Harley riders out there, this isolationism will not be accompanied with loneliness.
Any Harley rider who does not understand where the hatred comes from, just isn't paying attention. If you want respect, you and your fellow riders have to act like you deserve it.