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#1 ·
I have a complete bluetooth setup for my bike and 2 helmets. One headset is my wife's when she rides her own bike. I have everything else for the wing, including fox2kill's harness, smh10, and sm10.
I want to hook up to my bike corded and be able to communicate to her via bluetooth. Is this doable?
Thanks in advance. Wayne
 
#2 ·
Wayne,
I'm not an expert on this...Steve would be the guy to give the definitive answer. But, it seems to me that if you connected his harness to the connector under the seat where the passenger's corded harness connects, it should be able to do what you are looking for. When you talk, the passenger connector would pass the vocals to Steve's harness into the SMH10, which would then be able to transmit it to your wife.
Of course, I may be all wet, too! :lol:

Got nothing to lose by trying, hook it up and give it a shot!


Joe
 
#3 ·
Hi Wayne;

Corded mic? Works fine with a corded passenger; but, the harness won't pass mic audio from corded headsets to the mic circuit of the bike's BT unit; therefore, your wife won't be able to hear you via BT.

However, if you're willing to dispense with the cord and go completely BT wireless, then you'll be able communicate with the bike and your wife. Just talked to HD rider who uses the harness this way. Said he loves it. Said his wife loves it too because she can hear the instructions from his bike's nav unit (she doesn't have a nav unit on her bike); so, she knows what he's going to do before he starts talking about it.

Steve
 
#4 ·
I am wanting to go corded again because I always forget to turn them off or recharge them at night. My wife wants to be able to communicate bike to bike when we ride separate bikes. I thought I might be able to communicate through the bike itself using the intercom.
 
#6 ·
I am wanting to go corded again because I always forget to turn them off or recharge them at night. My wife wants to be able to communicate bike to bike when we ride separate bikes. I thought I might be able to communicate through the bike itself using the intercom.

Pretty sure I can make a harness that will do what you want. Just need to reverse the circuits on the harness' board. Didn't know there was a market for such a capability; so, I didn't give it much thought. Would be an interesting addition to the inventory of BT gadgets. Give me some time to work on it. Have several projects in the works already.


Steve
 
#7 ·
I hated being tied to the bike. When I stop for the day, I immediately plug in to recharge just so I won't forget to do it.
Agree. I have a "power bank" in the left pocket box. It's a small but powerful (12 AH) lipo battery that can charge all my stuff, or just leave it plugged in for continuous all-day power. Almost as much capacity as the bike's battery. Don't have to worry about ground-loops or alternator noise. Handy for recharging my cell phone, too. Here's a link to the one I use: http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-1200...F8&qid=1414205596&sr=1-76&keywords=power+bank There's a bunch of other ones that may suit you better.

Steve
 
#9 ·
I'm thinking of powering the CB with an external battery, would this have enough power (amps?) to power the CB?
The 2 amp USB outlet can provide enough power (2 x 5 = 10 watts), but it doesn't have the right voltage. Your CB needs only 5 watts of power, but at 12 volts. The standard voltage for USB ports is 5. There are cheap step-up volt regulators available (link: http://www.pololu.com/product/2117) that can change the 5 volt output to 12, but you'd have to solder up a USB plug on one end and a CB plug on the other. Easy stuff for riders who know how to solder, challenging for others.
 
#10 ·
The 2 amp USB outlet can provide enough power (2 x 5 = 10 watts), but it doesn't have the right voltage. Your CB needs only 5 watts of power, but at 12 volts. The standard voltage for USB ports is 5. There are cheap step-up volt regulators available (link: http://www.pololu.com/product/2117) that can change the 5 volt output to 12, but you'd have to solder up a USB plug on one end and a CB plug on the other. Easy stuff for riders who know how to solder, challenging for others.

I found this on Amazon, a little pricey. Do you think it would power the CB?: 36000mah Power Bank Multi-voltage (5v 12v 16v 19v) External Power Supply 12v 4 amp
 
#11 ·
<...>Your CB needs only 5 watts of power, but at 12 volts. <...>
Um, not quite.

Output power thru the final transistors is ~4w, but that radio is going to consuming a bit more power than that in amplifying signals, turning circuits and the like.

That radio is consuming ~25 to 30 watts (or, doing the math in current...up to >2 amps while transmitting) of power from the system to run it.

Remember those benchtop power supplies used to run the portable CB radios back in the 70's?
 
#12 ·
Ferg. I have my Sena chargers combined into a charging station if you will that is right beside where I place my wife and I's helmets when we get done riding. When I sit them on the shelf I simply plug in the chargers. Otherwise I would forget also. Just my way of dealing with it :lol::lol:
 
#13 ·
Um, not quite.

Output power thru the final transistors is ~4w, but that radio is going to consuming a bit more power than that in amplifying signals, turning circuits and the like.

That radio is consuming ~25 to 30 watts (or, doing the math in current...up to >2 amps while transmitting) of power from the system to run it.

Remember those benchtop power supplies used to run the portable CB radios back in the 70's?
Thanks, it's mostly Greek to me, I'm still on the learning curve.

I did make a typo earlier, the Power Bank is 12 volts/4 amps not 1 volt/4 amps. Maybe that'll make it workable?
 
#14 ·
No problem...intended for fox2kill.

The other half of your question...it should work.

Sent from my teeny screen using my big fat fingers!
 
#15 ·
Thanks, it's mostly Greek to me, I'm still on the learning curve.

I did make a typo earlier, the Power Bank is 12 volts/4 amps not 1 volt/4 amps. Maybe that'll make it workable?
A Power Bank with a 12v/4A supply will provide 48 watts, which is plenty of power. The Honda CB uses a little less than 2 amps when transmitting with a 13.8v supply according to Clarion's specs in the Users manual. So, the CB needs about 28 watts of power (my previous guess of 10 watts was incorrect). A typical USB port at 5v couldn't handle this much power with a step-up regulator (would need almost 6 amps). So, the Power Bank you found is a much better choice than the one I cited in an earlier post.
 
#17 ·
Agree. I have a "power bank" in the left pocket box. It's a small but powerful (12 AH) lipo battery that can charge all my stuff, or just leave it plugged in for continuous all-day power. Almost as much capacity as the bike's battery. Don't have to worry about ground-loops or alternator noise. Handy for recharging my cell phone, too. Here's a link to the one I use: http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-1200...F8&qid=1414205596&sr=1-76&keywords=power+bank There's a bunch of other ones that may suit you better.

Steve
Steve,

What is your charging source ?

It appears that a USB 5 volt source is needed to charge it. You must be using a cigarette lighter/USB ?
 
#19 ·
Steve,

What is your charging source ?

It appears that a USB 5 volt source is needed to charge it. You must be using a cigarette lighter/USB ?


Hi Morph. Follow your great posts with great interest.


Yes, to charge it I use a standard USB wall charger putting out 5v. Have a 5v USB outlet on the GW, but the power bank has so much power, I just don't need to charge it from the GW. I do it this way to avoid making a ground loop and introducing noise. I usually charge the power bank at night in the house/hotel.
 
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