front wheel bearing removal

**Jim Ciampi** · 07-02-2005

I need to remove my front wheel bearing.I looked in Honda Direct and a bearing removal head made by Honda is not available.I have a metal lathe and could probably make one if I could see one close up.The service manual shows one,but no help there.I wouldn't mind buying one if I could locate where. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim

**Quickdraw** · 07-02-2005

Try you local Honda dealer.

I have been able to remove them, for replacement, with a small dull chisel.

**Fred H.** · 07-02-2005

Jerry R. suggested taking about a foot of round alluminum tubing stock of the proper diameter to just fit inside the bearings, and slicing (hacksaw) it lengthwise about 1/3 of the way it's length. Then you can spread the section of two halves where you cut just a bit, and then slide it into the wheel so the lip catches on the edge of the bearing. Then you should be able to drive it right out.

I have not tried it, but it sounds like it would work, and next time I remove mine, this is what I will do.

**Jerry J** · 07-02-2005

Yellow Wolf said that he changed his using a little heat. Since then I seen a report by a guy who was changing the bearings on his BMW and said he used a little heat like you are suppose to ? Now you all know that the aluminum wheel is going to expand like crazy with a little heat and the steel bearing won't. My guess is that it would drop out at about 200 degrees?? Anyway I will probably change mine this week and after I get the tire and valve stem off I will be seeing if that sucker will fit in the kitchen oven!!

Also by using a little heat you won't be damaging the bearing pocket by forceing the bearing out.

Flame suit on guys give me hell ----

**fluf** · 07-02-2005

I have chaged several set now. All I do is use a small propane torch to heat the area right around the bearings.
In about 20 seconds, they fall right out.
Not hot enough to hurt the wheel and less painful than buying the $180 tool from Honda

**Jerry J** · 07-02-2005

Thank you fluf, all you people who have been doing this for the last 3 or 4 years and not saying anything are ------- chickens

I've been wondering about this since 2001 and wondered why nobody was saying anything about it

**fluf** · 07-02-2005

Originally Posted by Jerry J

Thank you fluf, all you people who have been doing this for the last 3 or 4 years and not saying anything are ------- chickens

I've been wondering about this since 2001 and wondered why nobody was saying anything about it

Probably because, like me, they don't like being called stupid. But Hey, it works. Wheels aren't hurt and now its kind of fun coming out ot the closet

**Jerry J** · 07-02-2005

Better get ready fluf, Fred and Art mann are going to eat your lunch. Hell you probably warped your wheel or changed the molecular composition of the aluminum---- throed it out of balance-- who no's

**fluf** · 07-02-2005

Originally Posted by Jerry J

Better get ready fluf, Fred and Art mann are going to eat your lunch. Hell you probably warped your wheel or changed the molecular composition of the aluminum---- throed it out of balance-- who no's

I'll just hide behind door #3

**blizardj** · 07-03-2005

Jim

I'll email you a picture of my tool. I made it from a Craftsman 1/2" deep well impact socket. It worked fine for me. You will need a lathe.

John

**Bulldog** · 07-03-2005

Blizz,

Hows about helping anothe USAF retiree out? I would like a copy of your Socket/Tool as well.

Thanks in Advance.

Bulldog

**blizardj** · 07-03-2005

BullDog

Would be more than happy to. I'm unable to send it via this forum or it's email system. Tried to send it to Jim, but I'm just not smart enough to figure it out. Although I can make the tool...

Send me a real world email address and I'll send it. If you can post it, the picture I meant, please do.

John

**JimRo** · 07-03-2005

This is the greatest stuff I ever used. I have used it on my planes corvettes and many bikes. I even shimne my shoes with it.

I bought a gallon two years ago and still have a quart left.

I carry some in a small squirt bottlwe on the bike. At the price you can't beat it. Believe me it is super stuff. Also clean chrome etc

http://www.washwax.com/

**Pigeon Roost** · 07-03-2005

I think Fred got his hotter than any propane torch could when he did his by welding a round bar to the bearing. The propane should be safe, if consistently effective -- a painter's heat gun may do the same -- don't ya think?

prs

**Pigeon Roost** · 07-03-2005

Another question, why are these wheel bearing failing so commonly -- or is that you are powder coating or chroming the wheels?

prs

**fluf** · 07-03-2005

Originally Posted by Pigeon Roost

Another question, why are these wheel bearing failing so commonly -- or is that you are powder coating or chroming the wheels?

prs

I am just doing it on the exchange wheels I am getting for choming and powder coating.
I don't know of any that have failed.

**blizardj** · 07-03-2005

I changed mine because after three new sets of tires, I was still getting a buzz from the front when I leaned off center. That was over the last two + years.

Did it fix it? Maybe... I think some of it went away. Key word here is...Think... The human mind can play some tricks on you when you want something to change and you've spent time and money to fix something that is subjective. Would I do it again? Yea...

John

**acadian** · 07-04-2005

I'd be careful with heat on aluminum as it will anneal it (make it softer and weaker).I once heard of a diver who painted his air tank some funky colour and then baked it in his oven for a while.Next time he filled the tank it blew up. Heat is not the answer on an aluminium wheel.

**White Rat** · 07-04-2005

Originally Posted by fluf

Not hot enough to hurt the wheel and less painful than buying the $180 tool from Honda

I ordered the removal tool from my dealer (actually 2 different pieces) and it was only about $30

Worked like a charm.

**fluf** · 07-04-2005

Originally Posted by White Rat

Originally Posted by fluf

Not hot enough to hurt the wheel and less painful than buying the $180 tool from Honda

I ordered the removal tool from my dealer (actually 2 different pieces) and it was only about $30

Worked like a charm.

my dealer told me $180, can my email me the part numbers please
thefluff@sbcglobal.net
Thanks a bunch in advance
Jeff

**White Rat** · 07-04-2005

This was from a post by Brian Fenner, I believe:

Bearing Removal:
07746-0050100 - REMOVER,BRG.....$14.89 x 1 = $14.89
07746-0050600 - REMOVER,HEAD 20MM....$14.63 x 1 = $14.63

Bearing Installation:
07749-0010000 - DRIVER....$15.63 x 1 = $15.63
07746-0010300 - ATTACHMENT (42X47MM)....$10.31 x 1 = $10.31
07746-0040500 - PILOT20MM....$5.09 x 1 = $5.09

**Fred H.** · 07-04-2005

I think Fred got his hotter than any propane torch could when he did his by welding a round bar to the bearing

Actually, I just welded a very small bead onto the bearing itself. I was on and off the bearing in less than 3 seconds. I doubt I got it anywhere close to as hot as a propane torch would.

All I needed was just enough metal on the inside diameter of the bearing to catch on the edge of my socket I inserted so I could drive them out.

And by the way, I DO NOT recommend this approach. I was getting desperate. You would be dollars and sense ahead to spend the $30 on the tool.

**fluf** · 07-04-2005

Originally Posted by White Rat

This was from a post by Brain Fenner, I believe:

Bearing Removal:
07746-0050100 - REMOVER,BRG.....$14.89 x 1 = $14.89
07746-0050600 - REMOVER,HEAD 20MM....$14.63 x 1 = $14.63

Bearing Installation:
07749-0010000 - DRIVER....$15.63 x 1 = $15.63
07746-0010300 - ATTACHMENT (42X47MM)....$10.31 x 1 = $10.31
07746-0040500 - PILOT20MM....$5.09 x 1 = $5.09

Thank you so much.
I will order the stuff in the AM
Jeff

**Shooter Indy** · 07-05-2005

I use a 3/4" expansion bolt anchor. Costs $5. Insert the end in the bearing, tighten the nut which expands the anchor, tap on it with a 3/4" bolt from the opposite side and out will come the bearing.

**Eagle Eye** · 07-05-2005

Shooter......What the heck is a " 3/4" expansion bolt anchor " ??
Never seen one

**CJS** · 07-05-2005

Originally Posted by Eagle Eye

Shooter......What the heck is a " 3/4" expansion bolt anchor " ??
Never seen one

Probably something like this. Should be availabe at Home Depot or Lowes

**Eagle Eye** · 07-05-2005

Damn......I've got about 20 of those under my work bench.

**Fred H.** · 07-05-2005

I use a 3/4" expansion bolt anchor. Costs $5. Insert the end in the bearing, tighten the nut which expands the anchor, tap on it with a 3/4" bolt from the opposite side and out will come the bearing.

Excellent Idea !!!! Great suggestion! Next time, I will do this.

**Shooter Indy** · 07-05-2005

Stud Bolt Sleeve Anchor is the technical name.

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