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    A REAL 1% belongs to outlaw motorcycle gangs ala Hells Angels, Bandidos, Pagans, Black Pistons ,Mongols and many others. I work with these gangs at rallys with CMA.They do charity work but many are heavy into the distribution of meth, other drugs and running prostitution rings. They are not all bad. I would not mess with them though
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    I thought that a 1%'er was one who spent 1% of his time riding,and the other 99% posting on the internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw_Rick View Post
    First and foremost I apologize for trimming (editing) your post in the quote, I did it to save a little space.....
    No problem Rick. Many of the guys will trunk a post down to the exact sentence they want to respond to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw_Rick View Post
    And here is the man with sense!!! The magic word as you stated is RESPECT, you give it and we WILL return it.
    Amazing how that one little word / action can change EVERYTHING, not just motorcycle related things.

    There used to be a day when people respected other people. A day when patience and understanding was freely given to those with physical issues like the elderly woman who walks very slowly or takes a ton of extra time at the grocery checkout. Now it's almost normal to expect someone to almost push her out of the way or complain and get frustrated things are taking so long. There used to be a day when a person's choice was respected as their choice and not slammed by some holier than thou ignorant nare-do-well (sp?).

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    I have to agree with Rick and DJ. I too wear a Three piece patch and it amazes me to no end what people really don't understand about the MC world. Then again, what fun would it be if everybody wanted in.LOL...
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    Oh, and don't tell my mom I'm in an MC. She thinks I play piano in a whore house......
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYBLUE View Post
    Way back when, I don't recall ( I should) but the American Motorcycle Association AMA, made a statement that " 99% of all motorcycle riders are nice people" The outlaw motorcycle clubs/gangs adopted this as a "Badge of Honer" saying that they were the other 1%....as time passed most outlaw motorcycle club/gangs started wearing a "1%" patch signifying that they were outside the AMA and other laws....thus the 1%er was born.
    The term 1%er still notes these rider/bikers as outlaws in the motorcycle world. As stated, some f the most notable ones are; Hells Angles, Outlaws, Bandidos, Pagans, Iron Horseman, Mongols, Sons of Silence...and many puppet clubs of the major players.
    Most if not all, wear a "three piece" patch or "colors" as their called...rocker at the top and center patch and a rocker at the bottom...most other motorcycle clubs, such as Harley Owners Group ( HOG, Southern Cruisers, Christian Motorcycle Association etc.) wear only a two or one piece patch, top rocker and a center patch with no "MC" patch on their vest....the only exception to this "rule" is the Blue Knights.
    The Blue Knights are a Law Enforcement motorcycle club that wears a three piece patch, but the international vest or colors are a light blue, opposite of the black vest the outlaw clubs wear. Some do wear a black vest with the BK colors and is acceptable now, but the official color is light blue.
    Mostly correct info, but the Blue Knights are not the only ones that wear a three piece patch on their cut. The Leathernecks MC wears one as well, including the MC cube, and I assure you we are not 1%.
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    I thought the 1 percent'rs are big money tycoons with huge houses, yachts, and Gold Wings! Anyway, according to CNN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Fire View Post
    No problem Rick. Many of the guys will trunk a post down to the exact sentence they want to respond to.
    [/COLOR]Amazing how that one little word / action can change EVERYTHING, not just motorcycle related things.

    There used to be a day when people respected other people. A day when patience and understanding was freely given to those with physical issues like the elderly woman who walks very slowly or takes a ton of extra time at the grocery checkout. Now it's almost normal to expect someone to almost push her out of the way or complain and get frustrated things are taking so long. There used to be a day when a person's choice was respected as their choice and not slammed by some holier than thou ignorant nare-do-well (sp?).

    Rick, I do not know you, but I do at the same time. You'll always be welcome around me. Sit down and have a beer. Tell me about that mudhole you almost didn't get your scoot out of again...



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    I'm afraid those days of respect and compassion are largely gone. It's a result of the "Me" generation, and the general attitude of entitlement that pervades our society. I guess I'm an officer and a gentleman, and a throwback. Whatever...I like my world. BTW...it's "ne'er-do-well"
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    Originally Posted by KYBLUE
    Way back when, I don't recall ( I should) but the American Motorcycle Association AMA, made a statement that " 99% of all motorcycle riders are nice people" The outlaw motorcycle clubs/gangs adopted this as a "Badge of Honer" saying that they were the other 1%....as time passed most outlaw motorcycle club/gangs started wearing a "1%" patch signifying that they were outside the AMA and other laws....thus the 1%er was born.
    The term 1%er still notes these rider/bikers as outlaws in the motorcycle world. As stated, some f the most notable ones are; Hells Angles, Outlaws, Bandidos, Pagans, Iron Horseman, Mongols, Sons of Silence...and many puppet clubs of the major players.
    Most if not all, wear a "three piece" patch or "colors" as their called...rocker at the top and center patch and a rocker at the bottom...most other motorcycle clubs, such as Harley Owners Group ( HOG, Southern Cruisers, Christian Motorcycle Association etc.) wear only a two or one piece patch, top rocker and a center patch with no "MC" patch on their vest....the only exception to this "rule" is the Blue Knights.
    The Blue Knights are a Law Enforcement motorcycle club that wears a three piece patch, but the international vest or colors are a light blue, opposite of the black vest the outlaw clubs wear. Some do wear a black vest with the BK colors and is acceptable now, but the official color is light blue.
    Sorry but the HOG riders and Cruisers are RC not MC. BIG Difference....
    They don't wear a three piece patch or MC cube.
    Anyone can join those guys. Just buy a patch and slap it on a vest. An MC patch is earned and trust me, not all get in.
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    Now that that is done and over with......... Hello everybody my name is Rick and I'm an alcoholic. Oh sh*t, wrong forum!!!! LoL

    If nothing else being as there are some people here that know that all us 1%'ers aren't the boogeymen just maybe some people will take a step back and rethink their mindset, yes I realize that is more then likely just wishful thinking....

    Just to reinforce my "lowlife 1% status", I own 2 vests, one has my colors and the other is what I wear when I ride on a mission with my other "GANG", the Patriot Guard Riders.

    So moving on, WHERE'S THE STRIPPERS?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw_Rick View Post
    Now that that is done and over with......... Hello everybody my name is Rick and I'm an alcoholic. Oh sh*t, wrong forum!!!! LoL

    If nothing else being as there are some people here that know that all us 1%'ers aren't the boogeymen just maybe some people will take a step back and rethink their mindset, yes I realize that is more then likely just wishful thinking....

    Just to reinforce my "lowlife 1% status", I own 2 vests, one has my colors and the other is what I wear when I ride on a mission with my other "GANG", the Patriot Guard Riders.

    So moving on, WHERE'S THE STRIPPERS?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw_Rick View Post
    So moving on, WHERE'S THE STRIPPERS?!?!?!

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    I have known a few 1%'ers over time. When I was a 17 year old kid I used to hang out with a national named gang for a bit, never was a member though. I was too young. Most of the guys I knew that went that way basically started out as nice guys that have a real big need to belong and be appreciated. Some came from abusive families with mean, alcoholic fathers that lead their family so this lifestyle was just what they were used to and modeled. I saw a ton of stolen bikes in their clubhouse that they scavenged and built other bikes from (all Harleys). At that time a lot of pills were floating around also.

    Today, I know some of the local 1%'s. I had one do my roof and he did an outstanding job. Great guy one on one and would do anything for you. I know they have a dark side that is driven by probably a real bad childhood. Yeah, they do have the character flaw that makes them do what they are told no matter what without question.

    If you live your life giving respect to others you will find that it will be returned to you. All people have some good in them. All people have done things that they are not especially proud of. Although the 1%'ers are as a group together, something that I avoid like the plague, You may find though that outside of their gang setting that they are just guys that are a little screwed up but do respect you for being the "good guys" that have provided a good life for themselves and their families. Yeah, sleep with one eye open though and never try and be buddies with them when there are more then one of them present. Pack mentality trumps everything else with these guys.
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    Default From the FBI's website: 2011 National Gang Threat Activity

    Interesting read: By ATF definition, One percenters are Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs as highlighted below:

    Gang Definitions
    Gang Definition
    Street Street gangs are criminal organizations formed on the street operating throughout the United States.
    Prison Prison gangs are criminal organizations that originated within the penal system and operate within correctional facilities throughout the United States, although released members may be operating on the street. Prison gangs are also self-perpetuating criminal entities that can continue their criminal operations outside the confines of the penal system.
    Outlaw Motorcycle (OMGs) OMGs are organizations whose members use their motorcycle clubs as conduits for criminal enterprises. Although some law enforcement agencies regard only One Percenters as OMGs, the NGIC, for the purpose of this assessment, covers all OMG criminal organizations, including OMG support and puppet clubs.
    One Percenter
    OMGs
    ATF defines One Percenters as any group of motorcyclists who have voluntarily made a commitment to band together to abide by their organizationís rules enforced by violence and who engage in activities that bring them and their club into repeated and serious conflict with society and the law. The group must be an ongoing organization, association of three (3) or more persons which have a common interest and/or activity characterized by the commission of or involvement in a pattern of criminal or delinquent conduct. ATF estimates there are approximately 300 One Percenter OMGs in the United States.
    Neighborhood/Local Neighborhood or Local street gangs are confined to specific neighborhoods and jurisdictions and often imitate larger, more powerful national gangs. The primary purpose for many neighborhood gangs is drug distribution and sales.

    So, it's not just big money tycoons, with huge houses, yachts, and Gold Wings

    Link to the stats: http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/pu...eat-assessment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consciouspilot View Post
    I thought the 1 percent'rs are big money tycoons with huge houses, yachts, and Gold Wings! Anyway, according to CNN!
    and this is exactly the kind of disrespect that would get you extra attention. I don't think you get it. This is not some game or who can play words better.

    Cross a 1%'er the wrong way and you will be corrected. Perhaps not right away, but don't think you can just say and do what you want without recourse.

    All I am saying is what may seem like a nothing little joking comment to you may very well strike a serious note with those whom we are speaking of.

    I am not telling you to be a little bi0t(h but just be mindful there is a line that you should not cross.

    Then again, I am out of line. I am not one of them. The above is my opinion. Rick feels a need to comment on it, he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Fire View Post
    and this is exactly the kind of disrespect that would get you extra attention. I don't think you get it. This is not some game or who can play words better.

    Cross a 1%'er the wrong way and you will be corrected. Perhaps not right away, but don't think you can just say and do what you want without recourse.

    All I am saying is what may seem like a nothing little joking comment to you may very well strike a serious note with those whom we are speaking of.

    I am not telling you to be a little bi0t(h but just be mindful there is a line that you should not cross.

    Then again, I am out of line. I am not one of them. The above is my opinion. Rick feels a need to comment on it, he will.
    So tell me DJ, are they hunting me down now as we speak?
    Or am I to take what you are saying as a threat?
    I am sure most people saw my humor with you as the exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consciouspilot View Post
    So tell me DJ, are they hunting me down now as we speak?
    Or am I to take what you are saying as a threat?
    I am sure most people saw my humor with you as the exception.
    Really? How old are we today 5?

    It's one thing to talk smack to a cow.
    It's totally different to take smack to a lion that can eat you.

    I "get" your humor but it is out of place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Fire View Post
    Really? How old are we today 5?

    It's one thing to talk smack to a cow.
    It's totally different to take smack to a lion that can eat you.

    I "get" your humor but it is out of place.
    You must be hitting the juice early. You have taken everything out of context to the MAX.
    But of course, it is your nature to act like king of the high road and be the agent provocateur.
    You seem to be threatening me through your affiliation with Rick above. Do I need to go to your Youtube site and find out how to load my semi-auto? Just asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consciouspilot View Post
    You must be hitting the juice early. You have taken everything out of context to the MAX.
    But of course, it is your nature to act like king of the high road and be the agent provocateur.
    You seem to be threatening me through your affiliation with Rick above. Do I need to go to your Youtube site and find out how to load my semi-auto? Just asking.
    Where did I once threaten you?

    Not out of context.

    I do not have any affiliation with Rick.

    Your youtube comment is just proof that you love me and want to be me.

    Don't hate me cause you ain't me!

    This was a good thread! Good laughs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Fire View Post
    Where did I once threaten you?

    Not out of context.

    I do not have any affiliation with Rick.

    Your youtube comment is just proof that you love me and want to be me.

    Don't hate me cause you ain't me!

    This was a good thread! Good laughs!
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    Nope. Just a bit wiser than some who continue to push back until things get ugly. Not saying either of us is wiser than the other but I can see when the horse is dead and when to stop beating it.

    I know when a battle is worth fighting and when it is not.

    This one is not.

    I believe you have good information to share on other topics and this little thread is not worth building a bridge between us.

    We have some great convo going in another thread and I do not feel burning bridges is ever a wise choice.

    You feel how you feel and I don't have the desire or the energy to push this.

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    [QUOTE=Airborne06;3760143]I'm afraid those days of respect and compassion are largely gone. It's a result of the "Me" generation, and the general attitude of entitlement that pervades our society.

    This is sad but true. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne06 View Post
    I guess I'm an officer and a gentleman, and a throwback. Whatever...I like my world. BTW...it's "ne'er-do-well"
    I still have to learn to stop trying to convert people to how it used to, and still should, be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megatwin View Post
    I thought that a 1%'er was one who spent 1% of his time riding,and the other 99% posting on the internet

    I have friends who belong to clubs,and they are ok guys.Treat em like people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wehrme View Post
    A 1%'er is a GW rider under the age of 65.
    Actually, it's much more common these days.

    Now if you want to shift that to below 30 - I am with ya. Had my first wing at 27 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEELMAN508 View Post
    Originally Posted by KYBLUE
    Way back when, I don't recall ( I should) but the American Motorcycle Association AMA, made a statement that " 99% of all motorcycle riders are nice people" The outlaw motorcycle clubs/gangs adopted this as a "Badge of Honer" saying that they were the other 1%....as time passed most outlaw motorcycle club/gangs started wearing a "1%" patch signifying that they were outside the AMA and other laws....thus the 1%er was born.
    The term 1%er still notes these rider/bikers as outlaws in the motorcycle world. As stated, some f the most notable ones are; Hells Angles, Outlaws, Bandidos, Pagans, Iron Horseman, Mongols, Sons of Silence...and many puppet clubs of the major players.
    Most if not all, wear a "three piece" patch or "colors" as their called...rocker at the top and center patch and a rocker at the bottom...most other motorcycle clubs, such as Harley Owners Group ( HOG, Southern Cruisers, Christian Motorcycle Association etc.) wear only a two or one piece patch, top rocker and a center patch with no "MC" patch on their vest....the only exception to this "rule" is the Blue Knights.
    The Blue Knights are a Law Enforcement motorcycle club that wears a three piece patch, but the international vest or colors are a light blue, opposite of the black vest the outlaw clubs wear. Some do wear a black vest with the BK colors and is acceptable now, but the official color is light blue.
    Sorry but the HOG riders and Cruisers are RC not MC. BIG Difference....
    They don't wear a three piece patch or MC cube.
    Anyone can join those guys. Just buy a patch and slap it on a vest. An MC patch is earned and trust me, not all get in.
    Just sayin
    Here is a little info on the AMA and thier 99% comment, and Like Rick says most of you haven't a clue
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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W Winger View Post
    Simply, a 1%er is an outlaw...does not abide by the laws of our Country...and usually does not work for a living, but takes from others who do work...
    So would that make him a Liberal Democrat... OMG!!!!!

    NOT HARDLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjmitch View Post
    So would that make him a Liberal Democrat... OMG!!!!!

    NOT HARDLY
    nice one

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug View Post
    Here is a little info on the AMA and thier 99% comment, and Like Rick says most of you haven't a clue
    http://lifestylerider.com/html/body_...clubs_101.html
    Pretty much sums it all up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerpilot View Post
    Mostly correct info, but the Blue Knights are not the only ones that wear a three piece patch on their cut. The Leathernecks MC wears one as well, including the MC cube, and I assure you we are not 1%.
    Also GWRRA chapters have a 3 parter...
    But everyone know that they are HARDLY ones to go Rumbling!!!!

    You Know Rick and Dj had the most informative posts on this subject.
    However in their posts they mentioned "respect". I think that is where most of the fear from the Lay riders comes from.
    The not knowing what the rules/lines of respect are, and also the term "respect" is so arbitrary.

    There is a palitable fear by 99%'ers that something so innocent as bumping someone, or even admiring someones bike too closely might be deemed an act of DIS-respect.
    Let alone just owning a Japanese bike.
    What is just another human intertaction is to some groups, is a major slight and cause for vengance to another.
    Again from the arbitrary interpretation of the word "respect"


    FEAR and mistrust comes from the fear of saying the wrong thing, or doing the wrong thing.

    It is with that lacking in knowledge that causes people to fear, or latch on to the actions of the lowest common denominator or representation of a class of people.

    This can be said about 1%'ers, Gwrra'ers, blacks, whites, Hispanic... ad infi-nauseum.
    Last edited by cjmitch; 05-15-2012 at 05:08 PM.

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