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    Here are a couple of pictures to show one brand of antifreeze that is silicate free.
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    Some people use Honda Automobile Coolant,
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    If you can use Honda car 50/50 anti-freeze in an aluminum engine for 5 years, why can't you use it Gold Wing engine for 5 years?
    I just chanfed anti-freeze in my 2005 with 70,901 miles on it (put in service in 09/2004) and it was as clean as the new Honda M/C anti-freeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbales View Post
    If you can use Honda car 50/50 anti-freeze in an aluminum engine for 5 years, why can't you use it Gold Wing engine for 5 years?
    I just chanfed anti-freeze in my 2005 with 70,901 miles on it (put in service in 09/2004) and it was as clean as the new Honda M/C anti-freeze.
    Inquiring minds want to know.
    While the Ethylene-Glycol (that which actually prevents freezing) never wears out, the corrosion inhibitors in the coolant are depleted over time. The OEM Car antifreeze that's Blue is a long-life formula, and is the only formula sold at my local Honda Car Dealership, as it comes in all their new cars since sometime around 2002. I think they once told me that Honda doesn't even sell the Standard-life Green formula through the Car Dealerships anymore. I do not know if the OEM Green Motorcycle anti-freeze is an extended-life formula with longer-lasting corrosion inhibitors like the cars, but given Honda changed the dye color in the cars to indicate the different formula, I doubt it. So it would still be wise to change the OEM Green anti-freeze at the recommended schedule. It should also be noted that while the Blue Long-life formula is rated for an initial replacement of 10 years or 100K miles, after replacement in the cars, it is recommended to be replaced at 5 years or 50K miles. I use the Blue from the Car dealer because I have some newer Honda cars, it's cheaper, and it's a correct, safe formula. However, I continue to change it at the recommended schedule in the motorcycle's manual on the bikes. My choice, do what you like.
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    rogedmonds I do use that in the cars with Alum. engines but just get the Honda car stuff for the bike it's exactly what is in it and you don't have to worry if you got out every drop or flush it, the ratings are just what it calls for on this prestone but a few bucks more every 2 years I just go Honda Car .
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    I changed all my fluids at 36 months and about 36K miles, and all is well at 48K miles on the Wing. JMHO but I think sticking with the Honda schedule is a bit much. I mean who changes their air cleaner at 12 K miles? What a waste of money and time that is unless you do a lot of dusty riding. Just sayin.

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    but you only change that once every two years anyway
    Hmmm better add this to the winter list - change anti-freeze today (5 years)

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    Patrick thanks for your reply, that is a very good answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Doss View Post
    While the Ethylene-Glycol (that which actually prevents freezing) never wears out, the corrosion inhibitors in the coolant are depleted over time. The OEM Car antifreeze that's Blue is a long-life formula, and is the only formula sold at my local Honda Car Dealership, as it comes in all their new cars since sometime around 2002. I think they once told me that Honda doesn't even sell the Standard-life Green formula through the Car Dealerships anymore. I do not know if the OEM Green Motorcycle anti-freeze is an extended-life formula with longer-lasting corrosion inhibitors like the cars, but given Honda changed the dye color in the cars to indicate the different formula, I doubt it. So it would still be wise to change the OEM Green anti-freeze at the recommended schedule. It should also be noted that while the Blue Long-life formula is rated for an initial replacement of 10 years or 100K miles, after replacement in the cars, it is recommended to be replaced at 5 years or 50K miles. I use the Blue from the Car dealer because I have some newer Honda cars, it's cheaper, and it's a correct, safe formula. However, I continue to change it at the recommended schedule in the motorcycle's manual on the bikes. My choice, do what you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogedmonds View Post
    Here are a couple of pictures to show one brand of antifreeze that is silicate free.
    I'm glad you posted the pictures, I have never seen an anti-freeze container before


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    I think the reason you need silicate free antifreeze is because of the construction of the water pump, not just because of the aluminum engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfirefighter View Post
    I changed all my fluids at 36 months and about 36K miles, and all is well at 48K miles on the Wing. JMHO but I think sticking with the Honda schedule is a bit much. I mean who changes their air cleaner at 12 K miles? What a waste of money and time that is unless you do a lot of dusty riding. Just sayin.

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    yep 33K is good for me mine is still pretty clean at 33 (air filter) I look at it with a mechanics scope light in between
    but I don't hardly ever ride on dirt roads or dusty conditions, if you were on a gravel road that may be someting to think about
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    K&N filters have the recommendations right on the filter - never replace and clean every 50K
    1,000,000 mile warranty - that's a whole years riding!

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    Thanks Patrick, good info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbales View Post
    If you can use Honda car 50/50 anti-freeze in an aluminum engine for 5 years, why can't you use it Gold Wing engine for 5 years?
    I just chanfed anti-freeze in my 2005 with 70,901 miles on it (put in service in 09/2004) and it was as clean as the new Honda M/C anti-freeze.
    Inquiring minds want to know.
    If you wait til your anti freeze looks bad the damage has already started. Thats the reason you need to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogedmonds View Post
    Here are a couple of pictures to show one brand of antifreeze that is silicate free.
    great thread for the dogs days of summer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Doss View Post
    While the Ethylene-Glycol (that which actually prevents freezing) never wears out, the corrosion inhibitors in the coolant are depleted over time. The OEM Car antifreeze that's Blue is a long-life formula, and is the only formula sold at my local Honda Car Dealership, as it comes in all their new cars since sometime around 2002. I think they once told me that Honda doesn't even sell the Standard-life Green formula through the Car Dealerships anymore. I do not know if the OEM Green Motorcycle anti-freeze is an extended-life formula with longer-lasting corrosion inhibitors like the cars, but given Honda changed the dye color in the cars to indicate the different formula, I doubt it. So it would still be wise to change the OEM Green anti-freeze at the recommended schedule. It should also be noted that while the Blue Long-life formula is rated for an initial replacement of 10 years or 100K miles, after replacement in the cars, it is recommended to be replaced at 5 years or 50K miles. I use the Blue from the Car dealer because I have some newer Honda cars, it's cheaper, and it's a correct, safe formula. However, I continue to change it at the recommended schedule in the motorcycle's manual on the bikes. My choice, do what you like.
    I need to change mine this fall and i am going to look into this.

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