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    I am wondering if anybody with a honda oem cb radio has any squealeng issues...I have the gl2way and am fed up with the issues...I have tried the tin foil which worked for a couple of months but is now back to the same old problems...I would like to hear from you guys if you have a honda cb unit (not a gl2way) before I buy a honda unit.. Thanks for your input

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    I purchased and installed the Honda CB on my 2012. No problems. Has more range than I expected. Seemed like a lot of money but worth it on the road. hth

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    Mine works great, even dialed in the swr for optimum performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaGold View Post
    I purchased and installed the Honda CB on my 2012. No problems. Has more range than I expected. Seemed like a lot of money but worth it on the road. hth


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    Seems you're about 2 1/2 hours from Pete's location.
    Maybe a call for an appointment and a nice Florida ride will cure your problem
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    I have the Honda cb on my 2013 and had one on my 2012. I wanted to get a GL2way for my 2013,
    but the reported squeal problems scared me away.
    Pete has stated that some Honda cb's have also had a squeal problem.

    I know Pete has reportedly worked with every one with a problem and has stated he has a fix for the squeal problem
    in most cases. He seems to respond to every complaint and works to make customers happy.
    I would talk with Pete.

    I probably will try a GL2way next time, but I have not had any problems with my oem cb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsled View Post
    I am wondering if anybody with a honda oem cb radio has any squealeng issues...I have the gl2way and am fed up with the issues...I have tried the tin foil which worked for a couple of months but is now back to the same old problems...I would like to hear from you guys if you have a honda cb unit (not a gl2way) before I buy a honda unit.. Thanks for your input

    Its not the GL2WAY radio that squeals its most likely something simple on the bike/install allowing the bike radio to pick up the CB transmission and squeal, squealing is indicative of a high output transmission so while not desirable is an indication of a working CB, installing an OEM in the same situation will most likely produce the same results come to the shop we will resolve it for you, we can also add the amplifier you wanted for louder output.
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    I had the same problem with mine, Pete and Mike worked on it and it has been working great ever since. It is worth the trip to go and see them.
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    Have you tried aluminum tape? Easier to roll it on so it sticks. Can be bought at lowes or home depot. I have the honda cb. Had an opportunity to buy other brands but chose it. Install easy and zero problems.

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    Having worked in the RF communications industry for 30 years as a design engineer the CB antenna system on the Goldwing is very poor at best. Honda uses a "counterpoise" antenna, the problem with this type of antenna is it requires a good ground plane and the Goldwing doesn't offer a good ground plane. On a counterpoise antenna the ground plane needs to be "under" the antenna, there lies the problem, so a compromise is reached, poor rf propagation and this can cause problems like you have described, it is called RFI (radio frequency interference). One solution to this problem is to go with a non-ground plane antenna design, however, this creates another problem, what to do with all that coax line because on a NGP antenna the coax is matched to the antenna and can not be shortened. The other solution is to make sure everything that is associated with the radio shares a common ground point, this helps prevent ground loops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terryj View Post
    Having worked in the RF communications industry for 30 years as a design engineer the CB antenna system on the Goldwing is very poor at best. Honda uses a "counterpoise" antenna, the problem with this type of antenna is it requires a good ground plane and the Goldwing doesn't offer a good ground plane. On a counterpoise antenna the ground plane needs to be "under" the antenna, there lies the problem, so a compromise is reached, poor rf propagation and this can cause problems like you have described, it is called RFI (radio frequency interference). One solution to this problem is to go with a non-ground plane antenna design, however, this creates another problem, what to do with all that coax line because on a NGP antenna the coax is matched to the antenna and can not be shortened. The other solution is to make sure everything that is associated with the radio shares a common ground point, this helps prevent ground loops.

    This little mod has increased the range within the realm of reality of a CB set. I have a base unit at home that I test with. The audio is much better from known points per my navigator (Wife) . We know we can't add radials and the only ground plane we have on the rear of the Wing is the sub-frame & swing arm. Of coarse one can't expect adding miles of range but every bit of gain is worth it for group riding. I think the most gain is forward and to the right of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsled View Post
    I am wondering if anybody with a honda oem cb radio has any squealeng issues...I have the gl2way and am fed up with the issues...I have tried the tin foil which worked for a couple of months but is now back to the same old problems...I would like to hear from you guys if you have a honda cb unit (not a gl2way) before I buy a honda unit.. Thanks for your input
    It is a short ride up the turnpike to Yeehaw Junction then west across 60 and a right on 17 for a short ride to Pete's place at the airport. I had a minor volume issue with the volume being low. He and his humble assistant Mike had my unit fixed up in less than 15 minutes. I don't have any foil wrapping on my 2012 CB and no squeal or noise except what is normal noise on the band. I think Pete or Mike can do a filter fix in a few minutes . Don't give up on Pete's unit as each bike has its items that can radiate unwanted noise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tfdeputydawg View Post
    Seems you're about 2 1/2 hours from Pete's location.
    Maybe a call for an appointment and a nice Florida ride will cure your problem
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    thanks for the response from the guys that own honda radios ..I have not talked to anybody that said they have the problems that i have with the gl2way...I will give it another chance by wrapping it with aluminum tape...I am planning on going to bike week in daytona and the fla district gathering in kissimmee (right in petes bsck yard)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsled View Post
    thanks for the response from the guys that own honda radios ..I have not talked to anybody that said they have the problems that i have with the gl2way...I will give it another chance by wrapping it with aluminum tape...I am planning on going to bike week in daytona and the fla district gathering in kissimmee (right in petes bsck yard)

    Redsled, exactly what problems are you having, when I first got my GL2Way it squealed so bad it hurt even without the helment on, it took Pete and I about three hours on the phone and still could not isolate it..try hooking your helment in the passengers headset outlet and see if it squeals in that connection, if not then you may have and unfiltered front connection, also if you have ANY aftermarket items (electrical) on the bike unhook them all and see if the squealing stops, if it does then start replacing the items one at a time until it starts back up, then you have your culprit, I will tell you nine times out of 10 it is a darn ground or loose connection somewhere that allow the RF signal to bleed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug View Post
    Redsled, exactly what problems are you having, when I first got my GL2Way it squealed so bad it hurt even without the helment on, it took Pete and I about three hours on the phone and still could not isolate it..try hooking your helment in the passengers headset outlet and see if it squeals in that connection, if not then you may have and unfiltered front connection, also if you have ANY aftermarket items (electrical) on the bike unhook them all and see if the squealing stops, if it does then start replacing the items one at a time until it starts back up, then you have your culprit, I will tell you nine times out of 10 it is a darn ground or loose connection somewhere that allow the RF signal to bleed..
    I have done that...thanks for the info

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    Did you try it with someone elses helment, impeadance of the mic varies and this can cause problems, would still like to know what exactly yours is doing??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terryj View Post
    Having worked in the RF communications industry for 30 years as a design engineer the CB antenna system on the Goldwing is very poor at best. Honda uses a "counterpoise" antenna, the problem with this type of antenna is it requires a good ground plane and the Goldwing doesn't offer a good ground plane. On a counterpoise antenna the ground plane needs to be "under" the antenna, there lies the problem, so a compromise is reached, poor rf propagation and this can cause problems like you have described, it is called RFI (radio frequency interference). One solution to this problem is to go with a non-ground plane antenna design, however, this creates another problem, what to do with all that coax line because on a NGP antenna the coax is matched to the antenna and can not be shortened. The other solution is to make sure everything that is associated with the radio shares a common ground point, this helps prevent ground loops.
    Thanks for that info...I have 2012 LEVEL4 california side car trike with an attenna from sierra with a splitter for the cb/fm radio ...a number 10 ground wire from the antenna base to the frame..swr 1.2 output 4.0 watts..gl2way black ground wire is not not connected because it squealed and I was told to leave it disconnected that the cb got its ground from the honda wiring...any suggestions?...Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug View Post
    Did you try it with someone elses helment, impeadance of the mic varies and this can cause problems, would still like to know what exactly yours is doing??
    I have 4 helmets 2 nolan with nolan headsets and 2 schubert with jm elete headsets..does it with all...I have experienced squealing,compaints of over modulating, the tx (transmit) message staying on and cb radio error message..have great grounds on all componets except the black wire from the radio had to be left disconnected as per pete ..I wonder if your black wire is connected....Thanks for the info

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    OK, I think if you have the time I would go to Petes shop and let him have it for a look, he can either fix it, give you a replacement radio, or some form of compensation, I know he will make it right. I had a buddies 2012 who Pete had to send him another radio an it fixed the problem, BTW my black wire is not connected..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedro66 View Post
    Its not the GL2WAY radio that squeals its most likely something simple on the bike/install allowing the bike radio to pick up the CB transmission and squeal, squealing is indicative of a high output transmission so while not desirable is an indication of a working CB, installing an OEM in the same situation will most likely produce the same results come to the shop we will resolve it for you, we can also add the amplifier you wanted for louder output.
    Pete I have been told that you have a new design wiring harness for the 2012 application that solves the problems..If so I would love to know about it ..Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsled View Post
    Pete I have been told that you have a new design wiring harness for the 2012 application that solves the problems..If so I would love to know about it ..Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedro66 View Post
    Come down let us fix you up
    Im going to be in Kissimmee for the fla goldwing gathering on march 22nd and 23rd....does that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsled View Post
    Im going to be in Kissimmee for the fla goldwing gathering on march 22nd and 23rd....does that work?
    yes we will be there come by we will fit you in
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedro66 View Post
    yes we will be there come by we will fit you in
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    My buddy Hammer has the same TX squeal problem ever since he installed the GL2way. I am so thankful I went OEM all the way. If this problem turns out to be a bad filter installation I'm guessing the installation instructions are bad. I watched him install this system twice going step by step meticulously ensuring he followed every step exactly. We normally ride together and I am the recipient of this loud squeal and personally have had enough of it. So you can imagine if I'm upset my big buddy is madder than a wet skunk. Reading this post and Pete's response seems to me the only way for repair is to take the bike and radio to him. That is just crazy talk! To all those looking at this post, run to the nearest post office and send the radio back to BikeMP3 and let them figure out how to fix this product. Spend a few dollars more and buy the OEM radio plus matched antenna you won't go wrong! Sorry Peter too many horror stories associated with GL2Way.
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    . Had it on receive only all the way down to daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by pedro66 View Post
    Its not the GL2WAY radio that squeals its most likely something simple on the bike/install allowing the bike radio to pick up the CB transmission and squeal, squealing is indicative of a high output transmission so while not desirable is an indication of a working CB, installing an OEM in the same situation will most likely produce the same results come to the shop we will resolve it for you, we can also add the amplifier you wanted for louder output.
    My gl2way has NOT worked since installed at wing ding.. I tried the tin foil thing and did not help.. I can receive,, but when trying to transmit everybody yells at me to stop using it because I blast everyones ear drums with high pitched squeal I could only listen all the way down to bike week

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    Does anyone know if Pete will be in Daytona for bike week

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    Quote Originally Posted by kniterider View Post
    Does anyone know if Pete will be in Daytona for bike week
    Sorry no I am not at Bike Week but if you want to take a ride over to the shop please give us a call to make sure I am in as there is lots going on at present.

    That said the issue in you case is not the GL2WAY as such but its a 2012+ bike issues (squeals, phantom channel changes and CB errors) that is now well documented with both OEM and GL2WAY radios this often can be mitigated by revisiting the installation.

    I have to admit that we do see the issue more with the GL2WAY due to the higher modulation over the OEM radio.

    If you are getting squeal on pre 2012 bike then its 100% installation or installation situation meaning that either a step was missed or incorrect or there is something on the bike allowing the RF in.

    In short squeal is believe it or not a good thing it shows the radio is pumping out a huge signal is not a faulty radio be it GL2WAY or OEM but it is installed on a bike that is allowing that signal into the audio system, in some cases this has been things as simple as a bad headset pigtail.

    You will need to take my word for it but there are far more GL2WAY and OEM radios out there working with zero issues you never hear about those but you will also find plenty of examples of both radios misbehaving due to install circumstances on these links.

    http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10927

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    http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showt...ghlight=gl2way

    For those who wanted performance then the GL2WAY is the way to go but this sometimes requires some additional steps to get happy, for less install issues but lower performance go the other way but sometimes neither will give an easy result.
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