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    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
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    On the one hand, you get props for being very original.

    On the other, I've done a lot of boat towing (behind my truck) and have found that boats don't pull that great as they are pretty high off the ground and the covers are horrible about catching wind and crosswinds.

    I think pulling that in a heavy crosswind would be very difficult and not a lot of fun. If you were only going short distances or lower speeds, you'd probably be fine, but I wouldn't take off cross country pulling one.
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    I would suppose as long as the weight were kept in check, (with all that room, it would be easy to overload), I think it works with a trike. I don't think I would try it with a two-wheeler, although I pulled a log splitter once, (not very far).
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    I would also be leery of high speed long trips; no real concern about lower speed short trips. Maybe smaller cooler just bunged/ tied in boat without the "wrapping". Otoh, it may work great. I'd be cautious until I had some towing miles behind me.
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    Pros: None.
    Cons: You might get yourself killed.

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    Don't see why not.
    Just watch the weight distribution and keep 15-25% on the tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Fouquette View Post
    Pros: None.
    Cons: You might get yourself killed.
    But other than that, do you anything wrong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Fouquette View Post
    Pros: None.
    Cons: You might get yourself killed.
    Funny...that's pretty much what my Dad says about riding motorcycles at all.

    I realize the OP asked for our opinions so I don't think your's is out of line at all, but Im also glad we live in a country where we can weigh the pro's and con's ourselves and make our own decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
    Quote Originally Posted by flyerq68 View Post
    I would suppose as long as the weight were kept in check, (with all that room, it would be easy to overload), I think it works with a trike. I don't think I would try it with a two-wheeler, although I pulled a log splitter once, (not very far).

    I think it's really a four wheeler with a single wheel drive, the side wheels were added to the Wing leaving the Wing basically intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
    Sir, I can summarize this thread up in three words....DON'T DO IT !! I learned the hard way pulling a too large camping trailer behind a Wing can start oscillations with the trailer swinging from side to side. This WILL dump you on your keester.....guaranteed !! When the load is TOO large, balancing the tongue weight doesn't help....

    Small trailer designed to tow behind a motorcycle work very well. I've done if across the continent several times. But they are weight balanced to the Wing.

    A bloody boat is a sail behind you designed to catch a crosswind and dump you on your butt. Road rash hurts....

    At the risk of repeating myself....DON'T DO IT...it isn't worth the risk (but every man to his own poison....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Fouquette View Post
    Pros: None.
    Cons: You might get yourself killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing One View Post
    I think it's really a four wheeler with a single wheel drive, the side wheels were added to the Wing leaving the Wing basically intact.
    You are correct Walter, after looking at the pic again, it is a bike with outriggers. But my point refers to the stability of pulling a high profile trailer with a trike (or outriggers), as opposed to a bike. Although, this version would not have the extra braking like a true trike. As has been said already, don't think I would pull it down the intersate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyerq68 View Post
    You are correct Walter, after looking at the pic again, it is a bike with outriggers. But my point refers to the stability of pulling a high profile trailer with a trike (or outriggers), as opposed to a bike. Although, this version would not have the extra braking like a true trike. As has been said already, don't think I would pull it down the intersate.
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    Pros: You can fish and ride on the same trip.

    Cons: I have to agree with the side wind issue.

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    Would make me a little nervous backing into the water ... especially if the ramp is very steep. But a little adventure is what keeps us young ... right!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
    I don't have experience pulling a trailer with a bike but one thing I can see happening is the outriggers holding your rear tire up enough so you can't get traction on a boat ramp. I used to drive for a propane company & the truck I drove came with a lift axle behind the drive axle. I was making a delivery on a dirt road to a place with a steep driveway & backing in the lift axle picked the drive tires off the road to where I had to have a wrecker come & pull the front end around because I was blocking the road & couldn't move. Had it not had the unpowered lift axle I would have made the delivery & been down the road, can see a similar scenario happening with your setup


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    Thanks guys for your opinions and pointers. Going to lower boat on trailer by 3 inches and reduce height of storage box from 24 inches to 12 inches which give a lower center of gravity. Also looking into same lightweight trailer but with surge brakes rather than electric brakes. as they are "Brakes for Dummies" who may not have time to activate electric brake switch. As to the contributors who thinks I am go to get killed: I am 75 and have survived 56 years of Lake Michigan boating, 49 years of biking, 8 years of cancer one attempt on my life. My personal adage "would rather die on a bike than in a bed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Thanks guys for your opinions and pointers. Going to lower boat on trailer by 3 inches and reduce height of storage box from 24 inches to 12 inches which give a lower center of gravity. Also looking into same lightweight trailer but with surge brakes rather than electric brakes. as they are "Brakes for Dummies" who may not have time to activate electric brake switch. As to the contributors who thinks I am go to get killed: I am 75 and have survived 56 years of Lake Michigan boating, 49 years of biking, 8 years of cancer one attempt on my life. My personal adage "would rather die on a bike than in a bed".

    Welcome to the board and congratulations, hope to still be riding if I ever reach your age but thought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
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    Rick -- since you asked, and this is only my uneducated opinion, but I've never liked the idea of towing anything behind a bike. I know LOTS of folks do with NO problems. But seems to me if the s**t hits the fan, you don't want to be towing anything. Just seems a trailer would severely compromise the bike's comprehensive handling. But again, never done it so I could be totally wrong. And honestly, I'm not even thrilled about riding with a passenger for that reason. (There might be other reasons for leaving my wife at home, too...)

    But I do like your style!

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
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    been known to tow a few things, local though..20 miles one way tops on the heavy stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Shopping around for a trailer to stow gear and found they all come in at least about 200/350 lbs and cost $thousands$ and dont store that much; so came up with this approach. why not tow a boat? Bought brand new aluminum jetski trailer, brand new Honda 3.2 outboard motor and a used Sears 12' rowboat. Tossed a 120 gallon storage box in boat for gear and covered all with boat cover. Total weight before adding fishing & camping gear under 275 lbs: cost under $2,000. Since the Wing is outfitted with a Towpac with a 5 ft wheelbase I feel pretty safe underway but have to allow more space between car ahead of me. Gave it a go on the interstate & it towed AOK @ 65mph. Dont know how this is going to work out on a boat ramp with only one drive wheel, so made up portable wheels so i can roll it into the water. What Say You?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    What Say You?
    Lemme see:

    A bastardized four wheel Gold Wing contraption towing a boat with (apparently) a CG about four feet off the ground.

    I'm guessing of the six wheels only two have brakes?

    Would really like to see a panic stop at about 65mph just for grins....

    What could possibly go wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick1800 View Post
    Thanks guys for your opinions and pointers. Going to lower boat on trailer by 3 inches and reduce height of storage box from 24 inches to 12 inches which give a lower center of gravity. Also looking into same lightweight trailer but with surge brakes rather than electric brakes. as they are "Brakes for Dummies" who may not have time to activate electric brake switch. As to the contributors who thinks I am go to get killed: I am 75 and have survived 56 years of Lake Michigan boating, 49 years of biking, 8 years of cancer one attempt on my life. My personal adage "would rather die on a bike than in a bed".
    Then I take it you know better than to tow a boat with a cover on it. The covers for when it's sitting parked not for when it's being towed.

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    what ever floats your boat..

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    I think what would worry me would be the dynamic load that the boat would generate when underway (on the road). A boat hull is designed to work in a fluid . . . and air has fluidic properties; particularly at higher velocities. You will notice that even Cars, Trucks and some Buildings (or large parts of them anyway) will become airborne when the air velocity is high enough. A boat hull is designed to be lifted, by the bow when under way . . . also known as going up on plane. The last thing I'd want is a boat . . . on a trailer . . . trying to get up on plane . . . . as will happen . . . . when I'm trying to tow it with a motorcycle. A car, even a small one will break the air flow in front of the boat . . . unlike a Goldwing. Which I mention with all due respect to the sport bike types who may believe that Wings are synonymous with Barn Doors. In any case I suspect that Darwin will have the last word in this adventure!
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    Can you see past the boat in the mirrors on the bike? I kind of like to see what's behind me.
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