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    Default Engine Side Covers: What's happening here?

    It sort of looks like there's some thin plastic covering on them, like when you get a new large appliance, and now it's just peeling off.Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	173290 Is that what it is, or is it something else? What do I do to "fix" this eyesore? Thanks.
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    It's a byproduct of where you live. Floridas humidity and salt air takes it's toll on metal. Professional polishing and maybe clear powdercoating will restore your covers. Check to see if powdercoating will stand up to engine heat.

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    They powdercoat exhaust so that shouldnt be any problem . Where they clearcoated before and thats whats peeling off or is the aluminum ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEJOHN View Post
    They powdercoat exhaust so that shouldnt be any problem . Where they clearcoated before and thats whats peeling off or is the aluminum ?
    John, that appears to be from salt. We get the same thing up here, hence we usually try to wait until the roads ae clear up here. That is, unless we jus get tired of waiting!


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    It could be from salt, but it could also be just from the exposed aluminum corroding. Corroded aluminum can leave white powder like that. I imagine that you might fair worse with it if you live near the ocean with all that salt spray.

    Honda paints the head covers, and it can peel with time, with or without salt. I don't know if it is from engine heat or what, but the right side seems to be the most common one to peel. Mine is peeling on that side too, but it's not nearly as bad as yours. Same thing happened with my Honda Magna after a number of years.

    I don't have a good answer as to how to fix it unless you are really good at refinishing. I kind of like the look of the OEM finish, and I doubt that I could duplicate that brushed finish look. I am not going to buy those stick on chrome aftermarket covers to hide it. They make it a pain to remove the head covers.

    I may look into just replacing them with a new set from Honda. The first set lasted 12 years. I have seen some actual head covers that have been chromed, but the prices are pretty high.

    I have also been waiting for a viable alternative. Hopefully somebody will post something.
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    Can also be caused by using a "strong" soap, like dish detergent, when washing the bike and not getting it all rinsed off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEJOHN View Post
    They powdercoat exhaust so that shouldnt be any problem . Where they clearcoated before and thats whats peeling off or is the aluminum ?
    They are clearcoated from the factory. You could pull them off, strip the remaining clearcoat, polish and recoat them. That would be MUCH cheaper than new ones. Powder coating is also an option but the cost would be about the same. Actually I think that they make clear powder coat and that may be the best approach.

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    I'd suggest looking into getting them powder coated. Many have gotten it done and the results look great. Many different colors are available and even silver and clear. The ones that had black powder coating done look really nice in my opinion.

    Here is a picture of a black bike with black valve covers owned by goinssr. He also had the wheels, lower cowl and exhaust covers done. I think this looks great.

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    I had the valve covers on my 2005 billet silver powder coated last fall to match. The cost was $100. From your avatar it appears your motorcycle is black. The cost for black powder coat would have been less. I removed the center chrome trim and all of the sealing washers (which I was able to reuse). I replaced the valve cover gaskets, but I could have reused them as well. The powder coat shop used a fine sandblast to remove the original paint. I am not concerned about the powder coat holding up to the engine heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Fuller View Post
    I had the valve covers on my 2005 billet silver powder coated last fall to match. The cost was $100. From your avatar it appears your motorcycle is black. The cost for black powder coat would have been less. I removed the center chrome trim and all of the sealing washers (which I was able to reuse). I replaced the valve cover gaskets, but I could have reused them as well. The powder coat shop used a fine sandblast to remove the original paint. I am not concerned about the powder coat holding up to the engine heat.

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    That looks nice Ron. I may have to do that to my '05 someday.


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    Mine look like that and I have never used any harsh soap to clean the bike with. Salt air gets to them eventually. Anodized aluminum would have been a better choice for the covers as it holds up better down here.
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    They are just like aluminum auto wheels. The clear protective coating only needs a pin hole in it to start doing that. It let's moisture get under the coating and then the bare brushed aluminum starts oxidizing and corroding. Painting, powder coating, or stripping and refinishing the aluminum and resealing it is your options.
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    Mine did that but not near as bad as the pictures from the original post. Got a good tip from Rocky to go to auto parts store and buy some clear coat remover in spray can, cost less than $10, I removed the covers and sprayed them, in a few minutes the clear coat wiped rite off with a rag, had to do it twice to remove all the clear coat, then I polished them with some aluminum polish, to me they look better than new and it's been a couple years since I did them
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    Thanks for the tip cycledude. I have never heard of clearcoat remover. That sounds like the hot ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledude View Post
    Mine did that but not near as bad as the pictures from the original post. Got a good tip from Rocky to go to auto parts store and buy some clear coat remover in spray can, cost less than $10, I removed the covers and sprayed them, in a few minutes the clear coat wiped rite off with a rag, had to do it twice to remove all the clear coat, then I polished them with some aluminum polish, to me they look better than new and it's been a couple years since I did them

    Cycledude: Did you recoat after the polish job?

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    I powder coated mine. They weren't corroded, I just wanted them black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ET Rider View Post
    Cycledude: Did you recoat after the polish job?

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    Nope all I did was polish each cover with aluminum polish for about 10 minutes and re install them, if you really were ambitious about polishing I think you could make them really shine

    The brand of clear coat remover I happened to use is Aircraft, peeler base coat and clear coat remover
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryM View Post
    Thanks for the tip cycledude. I have never heard of clearcoat remover. That sounds like the hot ticket.
    Until Rocky mentioned it I had never heard of it before, the stuff worked like magic, I never expected it to be that easy
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    Default Aluminum Corrosion

    I have seen this before from being washed with water from a salt water softner system. Especially if washed & cleaned up for winter storage when the moisture doesn't evaporate off quickly in the cooler weather. The water born salt wreaks havoic on the aluminum whereever there is a nick inthe coar coat over the aluminum.
    The stripping of the clear coat & polishing sounds viable & the high luster of polished aluminum looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledude View Post
    Nope all I did was polish each cover with aluminum polish for about 10 minutes and re install them, if you really were ambitious about polishing I think you could make them really shine

    The brand of clear coat remover I happened to use is Aircraft, peeler base coat and clear coat remover
    I will probably not recoat mine either.

    A high polish is beneficial in more ways than just appearance. The higher the shine, the more closed the pores are in the metal. When the pores are closed, the finish resists corrosion and dulling better, and you can go much longer between polishing. Of course, it all depends on where you live too. It will not hold up as well in areas of high humidity, as opposed to arid areas like the southwest
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    As probably most know already, the new Hondas have blacked out engine parts. I do not know whether they are powder coated or painted, but they do look good. I would probably go the powder coating route as that would be a lot more durable than paint and those heads are very close to the road surface.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryM View Post
    A high polish is beneficial in more ways than just appearance. The higher the shine, the more closed the pores are in the metal. When the pores are closed, the finish resists corrosion and dulling better, and you can go much longer between polishing. Of course, it all depends on where you live too. It will not hold up as well in areas of high humidity, as opposed to arid areas like the southwest

    Take them to a place that polishes wheels and gas tanks for 18 wheelers and in short time using various grits will buff it to a mirror finish if you wish. My son does that sort of thing and some of these show trucks look like they are chromed. I personally prefer a brushed finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Fuller View Post
    I had the valve covers on my 2005 billet silver powder coated last fall to match. The cost was $100. From your avatar it appears your motorcycle is black. The cost for black powder coat would have been less. I removed the center chrome trim and all of the sealing washers (which I was able to reuse). I replaced the valve cover gaskets, but I could have reused them as well. The powder coat shop used a fine sandblast to remove the original paint. I am not concerned about the powder coat holding up to the engine heat.

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    Wow Ron, those look nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimpy View Post
    Take them to a place that polishes wheels and gas tanks for 18 wheelers and in short time using various grits will buff it to a mirror finish if you wish. My son does that sort of thing and some of these show trucks look like they are chromed. I personally prefer a brushed finish.
    I prefer the brushed finish too, with clear coat over it, but how does an amateur do that without it looking like an amateur did it? I have tried to do a brushed finish on aluminum front panels of test instruments I built, and it looked ok, but it would not be good enough for a bike.

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    Well Gang,
    I've polished aluminum for decades and, while sometimes it can be a real pain, it can turn out like a diamond, based on the process(s) being used. I would have done that to mine but, I opted for Chroming. We've had a Chrome shop in our town that's been here since God was a kid. They quoted me $130 for both of them or, I should say, for all FOUR pieces. So, I couldn't turn that down. It took them about a week. I couldn't be happier. But, I'm a chrome type guy. Many on here don't like Chrome and, that's OK. Everyone's different. No biggie. I polished my GL 1500 ones and they turned out like a mirror. So, if you're at all thinking about polishing them, it's quite a bit of work. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIRE UP View Post
    Well Gang,
    I've polished aluminum for decades and, while sometimes it can be a real pain, it can turn out like a diamond, based on the process(s) being used. I would have done that to mine but, I opted for Chroming. We've had a Chrome shop in our town that's been here since God was a kid. They quoted me $130 for both of them or, I should say, for all FOUR pieces. So, I couldn't turn that down. It took them about a week. I couldn't be happier. But, I'm a chrome type guy. Many on here don't like Chrome and, that's OK. Everyone's different. No biggie. I polished my GL 1500 ones and they turned out like a mirror. So, if you're at all thinking about polishing them, it's quite a bit of work. Good luck.
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    I am not a big chrome guy. But in the right places, such as engine parts, it looks really nice. Those chrome valve covers look nice on your bike.

    We have a lot of shops that do chrome in Cleveland, but not being up on who does the quality work and who to stay away from, I'm reluctant to just pick one and leave it to chance. I would be really pissed if it started peeling in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEJOHN View Post
    They powdercoat exhaust so that shouldnt be any problem . Where they clearcoated before and thats whats peeling off or is the aluminum ?
    It's a clear coat they put on them that is peeling off. You need to make sure you get powdercoat for high heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryM View Post
    I am not a big chrome guy. But in the right places, such as engine parts, it looks really nice. Those chrome valve covers look nice on your bike.

    We have a lot of shops that do chrome in Cleveland, but not being up on who does the quality work and who to stay away from, I'm reluctant to just pick one and leave it to chance. I would be really pissed if it started peeling in a few years.
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    I too would be pissed if that chrome started to peel. But, about the best I could say here is, we've had that little Chrome shop in that part of town for quite a while and, it's always done outstanding work. I've got pieces of stuff they did over 20 years ago and it looks as good now as it did the day I picked them up from the shop. I think that it's closed now. I think it was due to the NAZI rules of environmental agencies. When I had the valve covers done, they said it was getting painfully tough to stay in business here in CA and they didn't know how much longer they would keep working. It's really too bad.

    They told me that it would be around $120.00 to do the front wheel. I should have jumped on that, back then. I really don't mind polishing aluminum. I've got a half dozen types of polish, paste, liquids, rouges bars (different colors for different stages of polishing) and more. My wheels have been mistaken for chrome by many. It makes me proud. I enjoy riding but, I also enjoy making my bike look nice too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledude View Post
    Nope all I did was polish each cover with aluminum polish for about 10 minutes and re install them, if you really were ambitious about polishing I think you could make them really shine.
    I don't know what kind of aluminum polish you used but I use Bushes Aluminum Polish. Best polish I have ever used and it works quickly. I like the looks of polished aluminum over chrome but that is just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryM View Post
    I prefer the brushed finish too, with clear coat over it, but how does an amateur do that without it looking like an amateur did it? I have tried to do a brushed finish on aluminum front panels of test instruments I built, and it looked ok, but it would not be good enough for a bike.
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    The best way to give a professional brushed finish on aluminum is to use green Scotch Brite and rub it back and forth in the same direction. I prefer green but white could be used for a finer brushed look.
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